MJJG: intertextual link-o-mania - 115 al fine

Fri Jan 15 18:30:11 UTC 2021

Yes Warhol was, thanks David, I can't take any more crazy.  NOT TURDS,
however we argue.....

But No, I do not think Pynchon targeted Warhol with that artist in V.: he
targeted
any of the artists such as in* The Recognitions *who, as Gaddis shows, have
hardly had an original brush stroke in their whole career. Who cannot see
the origin of what they think is new.

Warhol was not nationally famous until 1964. His NYC and beyond fame
earlier was for utter originality and genius. The commercial Tiffany's
Christmas window
of one silver shoe suspended against an all-black window box; the variety
of his pure drawings---he could draw perfect circles at will and any other
shapes. Look up his
incredible pure pen, pencil or charcoal (I think) drawings of the fifties.

I think Pynchon would know this as in the air and, further, would not see a
new pop artist as he presents this nobodaddy epigone in V.
Pynchon would have liked pop art, I suggest, loved it even, as he does
meaningful cartoons and comics....

>From wikipedia on Warhol:

He began exhibiting his work during the 1950s. He held exhibitions at the Hugo
Gallery <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Gallery>[31]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol#cite_note-31> and the Bodley
Gallery <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodley_Gallery>[32]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol#cite_note-32> in New York City;
in California, his first West Coast gallery exhibition[33]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol#cite_note-An38-33>[34]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol#cite_note-L32-34> was on July 9,
1962, in the Ferus Gallery <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferus_Gallery> of
Los Angeles with Campbell's Soup Cans
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell%27s_Soup_Cans>. The exhibition
marked his West Coast
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Coast_of_the_United_States> debut of
pop art.[35] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol#cite_note-L158-35> Andy
Warhol's first New York solo pop art
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_art> exhibition
was hosted at Eleanor Ward's Stable Gallery
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stable_Gallery> November 6–24, 1962. The
exhibit included the works *Marilyn Diptych
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_Diptych>*, *100 Soup Cans*, *100
Coke Bottles*, and *100 Dollar Bills*. At the Stable Gallery
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stable_Gallery> exhibit, t

It was during the 1960s that Warhol began to make paintings of iconic
American objects such as dollar bills, mushroom clouds
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushroom_cloud>, electric chairs
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_chair>, Campbell's Soup Cans
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell%27s_Soup_Cans>, Coca-Cola
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola> bottles, celebrities such as Marilyn
Monroe <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_Monroe>, Elvis Presley
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley>, Marlon Brando
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlon_Brando>, Troy Donahue
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Donahue>, Muhammad Ali
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali>, and Elizabeth Taylor
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Taylor>, as well as newspaper
headlines or photographs of police dogs attacking African-American
protesters during the Birmingham campaign
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_campaign> in the civil rights
movement <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_rights_movement>. During
these years, he founded his studio, "The Factory
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Factory>" and gathered about him a wide
range of artists, writers, musicians, and underground

A pivotal event was the 1964 exhibit *The American Supermarket*, a show
held in Paul Bianchini's Upper East Side gallery. "

Read Danto on warhol; read the great new bio of him by Gopnick.

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 1:10 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> Clearly Warhol was the target.  I think Pynchon also targets Warhol in V
> with the painter in the Whole Sick Crew who painted endless varieties of
> knishes (or was it bagels, I forget).
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 11:05 AM Thomas Eckhardt <
> thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>
>> I did not mean to insult Andy Warhol, if that is what you are referring
>> to. Also, one would of course have to take into account who is talking
>> to whom here, and to what purpose.
>>
>>
>> Am 15.01.2021 um 16:15 schrieb Mark Kohut:
>> > HELL NO, IN THUNDER as Melville writes.....
>> >
>> > C'mon, man....
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 10:05 AM Thomas Eckhardt
>> > <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de <mailto:thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     pg. 112 in the Penguin Modern Classics edition:
>> >
>> >     "1 of these days 1 of our sons, perhaps the son of a Polish
>> immigrant,
>> >     will emerge from some steel town in Pennsylvania and mount a turd on
>> >     the
>> >     wall of a museum and make it stick. . .and when you ask him what it
>> is
>> >     he will put on his dark glasses and snub you the way you did us."
>> >
>> >     This is, more or less, Andy Warhol, no?
>> >
>> >       > 8) pg 135 - _Moby-Dick_
>> >       > (Musclewhite horrified that a black person dared to interpret
>> it)
>> >
>> >     pg. 114: An anachronistic reference to C.L.R. James' "Mariners,
>> >     Renegades and Castaways" (1953), perhaps? Or are there other
>> candidates?
>> >     --
>> >     Pynchon-L: https://waste.org/mailman/listinfo/pynchon-l
>> >     <https://waste.org/mailman/listinfo/pynchon-l>
>> >
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