BE ch 5 nerd wars

[Mark Kohut]

I say not so easy in some of them....See Allen's words from Rev Gatlin in
AtD....see the whole Traverse family.....

See Maureen here.....see the airhead..........and we've just begun....and
in a detective novel we do learn of bad actors.....

On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 9:55 AM rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:

> why this good guys bad guys shtick? it doesnt make for interesting reading.
> two examples: I just watched Dune--can't get much more black and white, can
> you? all that destruction because the 'emperor' is annoyed. there's no
> tension. you know who to root for. I'm also reading a new biography of
> Robert E. Lee ( I enjoyed the author's previous book on Gettysburg). One
> can vehemently disagree with Lee's decision to fight for the Confederacy
> and his general attitude towards slavery (a bad mark that would eventually
> wither away which granted is not much of an argument, but his views were
> not as extreme as others and he generally had a poor view of the hardcore
> secessionist. essentially he was trying to protect his family and
> livelihood since Arlington was situated so close to DC. I'm not trying to
> condone anything here and there is a lot to criticize, and god knows all
> those monuments (ugh) but history is full of nuance. Pynchon used to have
> that nuance, but its easy to draw a line between the goodies and the
> badies in the last three books. I dont find that much appealing
>
> rich
>
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 1:00 PM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>
> > One of the themes of  Ch 5 is the division taking place between 2
> > directions for the tech revolution, to be sucked into the world of the
> rich
> > dickheads, jocks, wall streeters, military contracts...  or to defend
> some
> > kind of integrity, net neutrality, empowered feminism, fair wages,
> > avoidance of wanton  predation and militarism and  generally to follow
> your
> > own path, your own cultural affinities, without giving in to suburban
> > consumerism partisan wars etc..  This generalized Nerd version of
> integrity
> > is a bit vague around the edges which is a weakness Driscoll concedes in
> > observing how easy it will be to recruit “ code monkeys” if there are
> large
> > military contracts.
> >   I wonder about the sisterly support for Driscolls fascination with
> > Jennifer Anniston’s looks. It seems to me better to tell her she’s
> already
> > beautiful and should make/find her own look. Totally my opinion here but
> I
> > wonder if the chicken scene is poking at the potential weirdness/not so
> > coolness of this pursuit of full princess appeal.  Does this circle back
> to
> > the real estate theme? Do we buy style as we buy real estate, either
> cookie
> > cutter or salvaging some already worked out creative charm instead of
> > making our own or appreciating what  is already there.
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