No comment although I have them.

[matthew cissell]

Mach,

So let me see. You seem to propose the annihilation of Israel, a country
created whole cloth from ideas, dreams, stories and more by carving out a
space for that community that had formed a nation but lacked a state.

Ok. Two things (that I'll say) occur to me: What do you propose for the
people? Do you have some... solution for them as well? Would it be the same
for Arabic and Jewish citizens? What would it entail?

Next: If you (and others that share your view) are the descendent of
Europeans living in the Americas (or some other previously
colonized place), I suppose you are also ready to 'undo' your county and
hand over your land to the indigenous communities. Or are you writing from
somewhere else, in which case we might talk about that place.

Criticizing the trespasses of any country or government is one thing, but
calling for its abolition is something else. The actions of the Israeli
government have often been reprehensible or even criminal, but that does
not justify your language, which would certainly find applause and echoes
in a certain rising current in not only US political discourse but more
widely.

I'm responding not because I think your mind is likely to be changed but
because I want you and others to know that in this open forum you will find
voices that do not apathetically ignore your statements.

Ne Obliviscaris
Matthew Cissell

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 4:33 PM Mach Thomberi <machthomberi at gmail.com>
wrote:

> No we wouldn't want that would we.  Deprive Israel water and medicine.
>
> What would be marvelous.  Would be removing Israel from the map.  Cut it
> out and dispense it into the ether.
>
> Then do likewise of our collective memory of Israel.
> On Oct 13, 2021 9:23 AM, "Joseph Tracy" <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>
> > I would not go so far as to cut Israelis off from medicine or clean water
> > as they have done to Gaza, but a cultural boycott is potentially a way to
> > bring the debate into a more public sphere. We need equally to confront
> > what so many in the western press and politics  have done on this issue.
> > They  have supported  the insane idea that anyone who publicly
> criticizes
> > Israel’s abuse of Palestinians is doing so out of  anti-semitism. They
> are
> > labeled  anti-semitic even if they are Jews whose parents and relatives
> > survived or died  in Nazi concentration camps.
> >   Sally Rooney said she would be honored to have her book translated to
> > Hebrew but will not work with a publisher who does not distance
> themselves
> > from Israel’s aparteid treatment of Palestinians.
> >
> > > On Oct 11, 2021, at 3:44 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Why no comment?  This is a place for opinion.  As for me, I say
> Bravo!  I
> > > think Israel deserves full apartheid treatment right now.  And too many
> > > people are afraid to say so.   There!  I said it.
> > >
> > > David Morris
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 3:25 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> https://forward.com/opinion/476513/why-wont-sally-rooney-
> > allow-her-latest-novel-to-be-translated-into-hebrew/
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