Fwd: (np) good article for today

[Michael Bailey]

Actually I agree with your original criticism to some extent - the article
is almost a “reductio ad absurdum” in how far it carries the premise.

But with all the pompous moralizing about 9-11 going on,  it’s nice to find
someone who agrees that the response was wildly inappropriate as to nature,
targets, and scale - and it was used as an excuse for those right wing
buttheads to enact their dream program. Any ad hominem smearing of said
right wing buttheads is icing on the cake!



On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 6:36 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> Did I miss a satire here?. The Intercept-- of investigative reporting is
> all I know of them---did a sly Swiftian piece on
> Rummy?...where's the clue?.......
>
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 6:20 PM Michael Bailey <
> michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
>> Date: Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 5:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: (np) good article for today
>> To: Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> But the reason they wanted to cobble together an excuse to attack Iraq —
>> is
>> that deep seated need for control and empery that the article’s premises
>> (go way over the top to) limn…
>>
>> Perhaps the author even knows he is hyperbolizing (which Pynchon never
>> does, of course) by the time he gets to Rumsfeld figuring that bombing
>> Iraq
>> will get his daughter to break up with the white guy with dreadlocks?
>>
>> Yeah, Rumsfeld, great dude who had no trouble ramrodding approval for
>> NutraSweet thru FDA over vigorous objections of scientists, and then
>> accepting $12 million from Monsanto after they bought Searle. And I’m sure
>> he was a lot of help at the Pentagon…
>>
>> Not to speak ill of the dead. Requiescat in pace, Rummie, you go to the
>> Bardo Thodol with the karma you’ve got, not the karma you might want.
>> And nobody’s perfect. God bless and heaven help us all.
>>
>>  But I think the Interceptor was right: the war on terror was itself mondo
>> scary, and reflects the personalities of its architects.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 4:53 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > What the Interceptor guy wrote is ridiculous; the way so many
>> feelingful,
>> > idealistic progressives go into fantasyland, into
>> > being mirrors of Right Wing crazies. Conspiracy explanations beyond
>> > reality all the time.
>> >
>> > Knowing a little history--looking it up-- and refusing to be so stupid
>> > will lead one to understand that what Rumsfeld was talking about
>> > was bad enough just as it was: wanting to gather all the info he could
>> to
>> > justify--lead to---the conclusion that the US had to attack Iraq
>> > now and take out Saddam Hussein.
>> >
>> > Rumsfeld had not the power to even be Ahab, if one wants to work that
>> > metaphor; he was Stubb if anyone. Bush would be Ahab if he hadn't
>> > let Cheney be him.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 4:04 AM Thomas Eckhardt <
>> > thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Rumsfeld as Ahab?
>> >> > The “it,” then, that Rumsfeld wanted to destroy on 9/11 was almost
>> >> > certainly every frustration he felt at the rest of humanity.
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