BEg2 ch 40 - brief summary

Wed Dec 14 16:33:52 UTC 2022

The new big biography of Putin, by Phlip Short I believe his name is,
gives more circumstantial tangential evidence for Putin being behind those
Moscow bombings
via the FSB.....Would not hold up at this date in a court of law but much
that is still true
would not if that were the standard....

On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 11:17 AM rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Indeed, Yeltsin invaded Chechnya and essentially began the bloodbath for
> years to come. The rumor was the Moscow bombings were conducted by the FSB,
> though the culprits remain unclear as far as I know.
> I would also hesitate to use the term 'questionable' when describing
> Kadyrov's reign in Chechnya. The man is simply a monster
>
> rich
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 10:17 AM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>
> > The war on the Chechens in the 90s happened under Yeltsin. It was in 1999
> > after a series of bombings by separitists inside Russia that Putin began
> > his war campaign of several years with atrocities on both sides until
> > Chechnya was reestablished as a republic of Russia overseen by the
> > questionable authoritarian leadership  of the Kadyrovs.  While Chechnya
> was
> > independent after the first war  there were lots of kidnappings and
> > infighting so not exactly clear how ready they were for independence.
> Not
> > all Chechens were separatists and there was infighting and fighting with
> > neighboring regions.
> >   I don’t know what makes sense in Chechnya or their status in Russia,
> but
> > I don’t think what happened was a simple matter of wanting independence
> and
> > being crushed.  The republics were similar to states but with more
> > independence so it was kind of like a state declaring independence
> followed
> > by a civil war. But there have been quite a few years now of relative
> peace
> > there and Russia, devastated under Yeltsin has recovered and thrived with
> > Putin. I hate to see war resistors in Russia jailed but the US does the
> > same thing with whistleblowers exposing Us war crimes and has a dark
> recent
> > history of torture and coups and wars of aggression based on false
> claims.
> > Russia, China, the anglo powers, the Islamic nations,Europe, South
> America-
> > these are civilizations with complex inner dynamics and histories,
> > hypocrisies and warring armies. To my mind the US is in no moral or
> > political position to point the finger at Russia while we blockade  and
> > make war on countries for choosing their own path. Unfortunately the
> great
> > powers do not seem to be looking for peace on earth and good will is in
> > short supply these days.
> >
> > > On Dec 14, 2022, at 1:06 AM, Michael Bailey <
> > michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Having developed a distaste for the Deseret swimming pool, Maxine
> attends
> > > her sister Brooke’s health club, and finds March Kelleher puffing away
> on
> > > cigarettes in the snack bar, using the free wi-fi.
> > >
> > > March confides that she’s worried about her daughter Tallis, who’s been
> > > dumped by son-in-law Gabriel Ice. She describes Tallis as “innocent” -
> > > Maxine doesn’t address criminal culpability, but in solidarity of
> > > motherhood, listens as March limns a picture of Taillis’s naïveté - and
> > of
> > > course, (“wo-mensch”?) offers to take a dekko.
> > >
> > >
> > > Maxine finds Tallis in a tiny apartment in a hyper-modern building,
> > > drinking Hpnotiq
> > >
> > > http://www.hpnotiq.com
> > >
> > >
> > > SINCE STEPPING ONTO THE SCENE IN 2001, WE BROKE THE MOLD WITH OUR
> > > EYE-CATCHING COLOR AND PREMIUM BLEND OF EXOTIC FRUIT JUICES, FRENCH
> > VODKA &
> > > A TOUCH OF COGNAC. NOW, IT’S TIME YOU DISCOVERED THE ORIGINAL FLAVOR
> AND
> > > SIGNATURE COLOR THAT CHANGED GAME.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tallis starts giving Maxine the scoop: says it started when she had
> > noticed
> > > escalating trouble accessing anything online including necessary work
> > > sites; fast forward to Gabriel Ice screaming at her and throwing her
> > > possessions about, telling her to get out.
> > >
> > > Then she starts reminiscing about their college days and a movie called
> > > “The Geek Who Couldn’t Sleep” which the two of them used to pretend
> they
> > > were in; eventually Tallis’s remembering hanging with Ice’s old
> roommate
> > > Dieter at a post-9-11 funeral; Dieter’s bagpipes are experiencing high
> > > demand.
> > >
> > > Maxine gets Tallis to admit to the previously-clocked-by-Maxine affair
> > with
> > > Chaz Larday, & makes her aware - if she isn’t already - that Chazz is
> > > working for Ice.
> > >
> > > Maxine advises Tallis to call her mother, then notices a security cam
> > > blinking in a corner. They bat the thing till it falls, but Maxine
> urges
> > > that they get out immediately.
> > >
> > > In the lobby, Dragoslav the doorman advises Tallis of two guys leaving
> > word
> > > that they’d be seeing Tallis.
> > >
> > > Maxine figures Misha & Grisha. Presumably there to help, not harm? Or
> so
> > > she spins it to Tallis, who’s beyond worried.
> > >
> > > & just around the corner, there the plucky padonki are, bustling the
> > ladies
> > > into Igor’s ZiL. Apparently they were planning on holding Tallis as a
> > > hostage to ensure Ice’s behavior while they do - something?
> > >
> > > Tallis laughs while Maxine explains to the lads why Tallis isn’t a
> > > realistic hostage candidate.
> > >
> > > So it turns out they’re headed for one of Ice’s server farms upstate
> > which
> > > Tallis has been to & offers to draw them a map of. She has trouble with
> > the
> > > name of the property, Tewattsirokwas - and Maxine is hit with nostalgia
> > for
> > > the Trotskyite summer camp she attended at that exact spot.
> > >
> > > Lake Heatsink nearby has the depth & coldness that make it a great spot
> > for
> > > a server farm.
> > >
> > > They’ve got a vircator they are going to run a little test with, not
> > > full-scale, “maybe 10%.”
> > >
> > > Igor “doesn’t know about this,” and Maxine goes along but fishes for
> > more.
> > > Apparently Igor’s sympathies with the Chechens had caused his leaving
> the
> > > Spetsnaz -
> > >
> > > < this stuff really conveys a lot more to me lately, Chechnya’s
> laudable
> > > aspirations of independence having been ruthlessly crushed at the
> > > insistence of glabrous-domed villain Putin back in the 90s, whilst the
> > > “free world” was reveling in the “peace dividend” - revealing his
> > scabrous
> > > nature & genocidal imperialism all the way back then>
> > >
> > > <so Igor from at least some angles is a righteous dude, I knew I liked
> > him
> > > at least a little>
> > >
> > > And thus, Igor was supporting Chechens financially with some of the
> money
> > > Lester Traipse was funneling away from the Wahhabist prick-bastards
> that
> > > Ice (& possibly the CIA) was sending it to.
> > >
> > > <this has to be unknown to Putin, right? or otherwise, Igor would have
> to
> > > be looking out for pointy umbrellas and so forth >
> > >
> > > So it isn’t just revenge for Traipse - though that’s the part which
> > > emotionally moved Misha & Grisha - but also for an interruption of
> funds
> > > that Igor’s friends count on.
> > >
> > >
> > > Poughkeepsie’s where M&G meet their contact Yuri with his generator for
> > the
> > > vircator (Maxine upon seeing the size of it has some doubts about the
> > > “maybe 10%”) - and it’s where Maxi & Tallis get out of the ZiL & board
> > the
> > > 10:59 back to Manhattan.
> > > --
> > > Pynchon-L: https://waste.org/mailman/listinfo/pynchon-l
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Pynchon-L: https://waste.org/mailman/listinfo/pynchon-l
> >
> --
> Pynchon-L: https://waste.org/mailman/listinfo/pynchon-l
>