Serious news from Europe on Ukraine

[Mark Kohut]

My mainstream media is not ignoring it even outside of mainstream pynchon
list.....the rest I'll ignore of course as you do my sometimes
"non-mainstream' reporting even...

Whoops, cannot ignore the rest...you have been wrong every step of the way
so far and you will be wrong, I say, on everything else.......just remember
when you are and
what it might mean.....

The mind reels as the logic kneels......2 X 2 = 369....

On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 11:38 AM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

> Apparently the mainstream media is ignoring this completely. It does not
> fit the narrative and is not a signed agreement yet.  Macron’s efforts may
> be being reined in, and Biden announced he will stop Nordstream. This is
> the biggest threat US  can come up with short of starting a war. The
> sanctions are meaningless.  So  hope for a more sensible solution is
> clearly on hold if not completely vetoed by US. Zelensky may suddenly be
> removed as the US already is very pissed at him. If so it will be obvious
> that the word democracy in no way applies to Ukraine.
>
>
> > On Feb 8, 2022, at 11:01 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> >
> > KIEV  Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has confirmed a desire to
> implement the Minsk <https://www.urdupoint.com/en/latest-news/minsk.html>
> agreements, French President Emmanuel Macron said on Tuesday after talks in
> Kiev <https://www.urdupoint.com/en/latest-news/kiev.html>.
> >
> > On Monday, Macron met with Russian <
> https://www.urdupoint.com/en/latest-news/russia.html> President Vladimir
> Putin <https://www.urdupoint.com/en/latest-news/vladimir.html> in Moscow <
> https://www.urdupoint.com/en/latest-news/moscow.html>.
> >
> > "Yesterday, President Putin <
> https://www.urdupoint.com/en/latest-news/vladimir.html> and I discussed
> this issue for a long time. And he himself confirmed his readiness to
> comply with the Minsk <https://www.urdupoint.com/en/latest-news/minsk.html>
> agreements. And thank you (Zelenskyy) for confirming your desire to
> implement these agreements during our talks (in Kiev <
> https://www.urdupoint.com/en/latest-news/kiev.html>)," Macron told a
> press conference, adding that Ukraine <
> https://www.urdupoint.com/en/latest-news/ukraine.html> has reaffirmed its
> commitment to a ceasefire in Donbas.
> > It appears  to this p-lister that Macron decided that Putin was right
> that a Nato vs. Russia war would be a no win , everybody loses  option. He
> told Zelensky which way the wind in the EU was blowing, and I think
> Zelensky may have been concerned about the bs from Biden of immediate
> threat of Russian invasion and secret Russian false flag film which was
> obviously a desperate tactic and not a reality (and not nearly as much fun
> as a pee video). Other factors may be that the US rhetoric of war and
> sanctions ( seems to be the only play in their playbook) was stupid because
> Europe needs the Gas and there are many international investors in the
> pipeline including Shell ( or one of the US biggies), and between Nato’s
> destructive powers and Russia's hypersonic missiles nobody wants to think
> too much about an actual war. And because US sanctions don’t mean shit to
> Russia/China and the Stans.
> >
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