Serious news from Europe on Ukraine

[Joseph Tracy]

Huh?  Macron said Zelensky had agreed verbally to Minsk agreement ( whether Minsk 1 or 2 was not stated). This does not appear in the Guardian this morning, Since I wrote I found the story in CNN but with the bulk of the article saying why it will never work. The NY Times  on Macron does not mention Minsk and minimizes Macron efforts. PBS had an article that included contradictory staements about Minsk
"Macron said both Putin and Zelenskyy confirmed they were willing to implement the Minsk agreements — “the only path allowing to build peace … and find a sustainable political solution.”

Macron also said the presidential advisers of France, Germany, Russia and Ukraine will meet Thursday in Berlin on the next steps. “It will take time to get results,” he said.

Zelenskyy was mum on where Ukraine stands on implementing the Minsk agreements and whether he assured Macron that Kyiv is committed to do so, saying only that his country views Thursday’s meeting “very positively” and hoped for a subsequent meeting by the four leaders.”   PBS

I am not a journalist Dietze, this story looked like major news to me last night, but I was surprised this morning when some mainstream papers did not cover it: The Guardian, NYT.  I did not intend to restart this thread, I honestly thought a breakthrough change was worth mentioning.  It is clearly a diplomatic process in progress with powerful  multi dimensional implications.  There are games going on with Zelensky wanting money from europe to stay out of NATO, US wanting to stop Euro dependence on Russian gas and to keep alive cold war madness US hegemony, Lech Walesa of Poland wanting to attack Moscow( If he was a real man he would join the Ukrainian far right and start driving), Macron wanting to bring a French led peace deal to his upcoming election, and rising food prices in Europe due to stoppage of Russian fertilizer, etc. etc.  
  The fact that the Minsk agreement may be back on the table makes sense to me for the prospect of peace. I do not believe Russia wants  or needs or has the slightest interest in going to war  for Ukrainian territory.  
 As to your snide comments on the illuminati  they are lame and without basis.  The US does a lot of coups and if Zelensky really decides Minsk is the way, I doubt that a coup option is , as these bastards say so often, ‘off the table’. The US is not neutral, they want Nato on Russia’s borders as close to Moscow as possible.  Finally The statement about Biden’s intention to stop Nordstream was a mistake on my part because that is how it was reported in one of the reports I read, and there was  no context that this was simply a repetition of the threat that this would happen if Russia Invaded. I should have looked more closely elsewhere. But the way it was reported it sounded like a change and that team Biden had some crazy plans to stop ithe pipeline regardless of any escalation.  

My reference to the likes of the Guardian, NYT, Reuters, AP, PBS as mainstream is not some private use of the term mainstream and your implications to that effect are misplaced. If you have a better term perhaps you could recommend it. I will not be calling them reliable or real  news since I don’t believe that. 

Below is the story from a Reuters reporter, but in a  publication I never heard of called the Star.  

KYIV (Reuters) - French President Emmanuel Macron on Tuesday said the leaders of both Russia and Ukraine had committed to honouring the Minsk accords.

"We have now the possibility of advancing negotiations," Macron told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy during a news conference after the two had held talks in Kyiv.

The Minsk set of agreements were signed in 2014 and 2015 by the leaders of Ukraine, Russia, France and Germany as a response to Russia's annexation of Crimea. They include an aim to end the separatist war by Russian-speakers in Ukraine's eastern Donbass region.

Russia has gathered tens of thousands of troops near its border with Ukraine but has denied plans to invade Ukraine.


(Reporting by Michel Rose; Editing by Sudip Kar-Gupta, Tassilo Hummel and Alex Richardson)


> On Feb 9, 2022, at 11:45 AM, Martin Dietze <mdietze at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 9. February 2022 at 17:38:34, Joseph Tracy (brook7 at sover.net <mailto:brook7 at sover.net>) wrote:
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>> Apparently the mainstream media is ignoring this completely.
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> Which “mainstream”? Seems yours doesn’t. Does that make it more truthful per se?
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>> Zelensky may suddenly be removed as the US already is very pissed at him.
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> Won’t happen. The reptiloides are on vacation, and the Illuminati are somewhat undecided on this matter.
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>>  If so it will be obvious that the word democracy in no way applies to Ukraine.
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> If your “mainstream” tells you so, it *must* bet true I guess. Funny, how people who have voted out all their presidents but one after their respective first terms could believe that this was “democracy” as Joseph and his “mainstream” now tell us there isn’t?
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