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Allen Ruch quail at shipwrecklibrary.com
Sun Feb 13 14:47:59 UTC 2022


Mark: OFFLIST

I'm taking this offlist because it's excessively non-Pynchon and non-Ukraine. But: Ha ha ha! I hardly think you were "pwned," my friend! I was DELIGHTED by your post, and recognized a true fellow traveler. Also, "Lamia" is my favorite Genesis song, so great to see it referenced. So how about we call it a PROG DRAW and teach each other? Have you uncovered any good obscurities or new groups lately? And where do you stand on Pineapple Thief? 

BTW: You really are sick—? I hope not with COVID? 

—Quail
 

On 2/12/22, 10:54 PM, "Mark Thibodeau" <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> wrote:

    Re: my "zeuhl" v. "Kobaïan" nomenclatural conflation... I DID say that
    I was quite sick, yes?

    But seriously... I can already tell this is a fight I want no part of.

    And of course, it would be on the Pynchon-List that I encounter the
    progiste whose prog obsession puts my progophilia to shame.

    I hereby surrender to the better man. Teach me, teacher!

    Cheers!
    yer old pal Jerky

    On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 8:29 PM Allen Ruch <quail at shipwrecklibrary.com> wrote:
    >
    > I was going to let this drop, as I'm sure it's uninteresting most Listers, but I cannot let Jerky's challenge stand!
    >
    > An AMATEUR, you say, my friend? Ho ho ho! I am quite familiar with RIO, although I prefer Etron Fou Leloublan to 5uu, and probably Univers Zéro most of all. (Though 5uu is quite good!) I have an extensive collection of 1970s Andalusian prog, possess every King Crimson box set, and can rattle off the date of every Steven Wilson prog remaster. I am currently listening to Wobbler as I type this, with Centipede queued up next, just for spite!
    >
    > And feel free to make your puns, my dear friend: but note that the *language* is Kobaïan -- "zeuhl" is merely "celestial!"
    >
    > —Qüail wört Qüailönik
    >
    > PS: But seriously, email me offlist and we can chat about obscure prog ALL DAY LONG! I also love Anekdoten...!
    >
    > On 2/12/22, 2:55 PM, "Mark Thibodeau" <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >     When it comes to Prog Rock Love, I'm willing to bet y'all cats are
    >     AMATEURS compared to MY ridiculous, shameless self.
    >
    >     I'm too sick to come up with the sort of (admittedly excellent) proggy
    >     puns in the style of whoever it is who wanted mountains to come out of
    >     the sky and STAND THERE (was it you, David?), but if I wasn't this
    >     sick, my puns would involve my adventures with a trio of Lamia who
    >     leave a scent of garlic to linger on my chocolate fingers, and it
    >     would be in Zeuhl, monkeyfisters!!!
    >
    >     Don't talk to me about obscure until you've discovered and fallen
    >     forever in love with bizarre Israeli Rock In Opposition bands like The
    >     5 UU's, or Swedish bands who devote themselves entirely to emulating
    >     exactly ONE of King Crimson SIX distinct stylistic periods (that band
    >     would be Anekdoten, and that stylistic period would be the "Lark's
    >     Tongues in Aspic/Starless and Bible Black/Red" era).
    >
    >     So try finding The 5UU's song "Roan" from their album "Hunger's
    >     Teeth", and/or Anekdoten's "From Within", from the eponymous album on
    >     Youtube. They don't have fancy-shmancy "vidayos" (with the exception
    >     of a few live ones, but ignore those), but the songs are there. ...Oh,
    >     boy, are they ever.
    >
    >     Enh. I'm tired. Gotta go lie down.
    >
    >     Prog Rocker in Residence
    >     yer old pal Jerky LeBoeuf, Esq.
    >
    >     On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 3:10 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
    >     >
    >     > You’re thinking of the Lizard People, or are they the same thing?
    >     >
    >     > On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 12:48 PM Allen Ruch <quail at shipwrecklibrary.com>
    >     > wrote:
    >     >
    >     > > I dunno…. If the CIA were really serious, they would have used STEELY DAN…
    >     > >
    >     > > From: Neal Fultz <nfultz at gmail.com>
    >     > > Date: Friday, February 11, 2022 at 12:18 PM
    >     > > To: Allen Ruch <quail at shipwrecklibrary.com>
    >     > > Cc: The Whole Sick Crew <pynchon-l at waste.org>
    >     > > Subject: Re: total mass retain
    >     > >
    >     > > The Grateful Dead was a cia psyop. Slayer was used by the cia to torture
    >     > > prisoners. Maybe you're closer to the edge than you think?
    >     > >
    >     > > On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 9:05 AM Allen Ruch <quail at shipwrecklibrary.com
    >     > > <mailto:quail at shipwrecklibrary.com>> wrote:
    >     > > Bitch, I wore a Grateful Dead T-shirt to a Slayer concert. I’m fearless, I
    >     > > tell you, FEARLESS! …livin’ life close to the edge, so to speak….
    >     > >
    >     > > From: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com<mailto:fqmorris at gmail.com>>
    >     > > Date: Friday, February 11, 2022 at 11:59 AM
    >     > > To: Allen Ruch <quail at shipwrecklibrary.com<mailto:
    >     > > quail at shipwrecklibrary.com>>
    >     > > Cc: The Whole Sick Crew <pynchon-l at waste.org<mailto:pynchon-l at waste.org>>
    >     > > Subject: Re: NP: total mass retain
    >     > >
    >     > > I bet you would NEVER admit to YES at Club Cologne…
    >     > >
    >     > > On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 11:37 AM Allen Ruch <quail at shipwrecklibrary.com
    >     > > <mailto:quail at shipwrecklibrary.com><mailto:quail at shipwrecklibrary.com
    >     > > <mailto:quail at shipwrecklibrary.com>>> wrote:
    >     > > Ha ha ha!
    >     > >
    >     > > I’ve seen Yes in its various forms over a dozen times. I’ve met Roger Dean
    >     > > and had him autograph a print. I place the exact date the everything went
    >     > > to hell as June 27, 2015: the day Chris Squire died.
    >     > >
    >     > > I TOUCHED RICK WAKEMAN’S CAPE!!!
    >     > >
    >     > > —Quail
    >     > >
    >     > >
    >     > >
    >     > > From: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com<mailto:fqmorris at gmail.com><mailto:
    >     > > fqmorris at gmail.com<mailto:fqmorris at gmail.com>>>
    >     > > Date: Friday, February 11, 2022 at 11:19 AM
    >     > > To: Allen Ruch <quail at shipwrecklibrary.com<mailto:
    >     > > quail at shipwrecklibrary.com><mailto:quail at shipwrecklibrary.com<mailto:
    >     > > quail at shipwrecklibrary.com>>>
    >     > > Cc: The Whole Sick Crew <pynchon-l at waste.org<mailto:pynchon-l at waste.org
    >     > > ><mailto:pynchon-l at waste.org<mailto:pynchon-l at waste.org>>>
    >     > > Subject: Re: BEg2 ch 18 quick summary, private noses
    >     > >
    >     > > OMG-icron!  Please, not, YES!!!  Please tell me you are kidding…. Or just
    >     > > shoot me, already!
    >     > >
    >     > > On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 11:14 AM Allen Ruch <quail at shipwrecklibrary.com
    >     > > <mailto:quail at shipwrecklibrary.com><mailto:quail at shipwrecklibrary.com
    >     > > <mailto:quail at shipwrecklibrary.com>><mailto:quail at shipwrecklibrary.com
    >     > > <mailto:quail at shipwrecklibrary.com><mailto:quail at shipwrecklibrary.com
    >     > > <mailto:quail at shipwrecklibrary.com>>>> wrote:
    >     > > David Morris replies from his yacht, piña colada in hand,
    >     > >
    >     > > > You are just too fucking punk!  And fuck you! I like Steely Dan. ;)
    >     > >
    >     > > Well, they’re one notch better than The Eagles, I’ll give you that. But
    >     > > I’m actually not very punk—I’m prog, baby. Give me a twenty minute long
    >     > > song about warring trees! I want my mountains to come out of the sky, and
    >     > > STAND THERE! I know what I see when I walk across the sitting room and turn
    >     > > the television on….
    >     > >
    >     > > —Quail, thankfully he’s FINALLY baited a Steely Dan fan on this fucking
    >     > > list…
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