NP: On the Ukraine thread

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Sun Feb 13 17:08:22 UTC 2022


I reject all Neo-Nazi groups and your having to speak out against one while
ignorin others.

But I will grant that I was inaccurate when I wrote "(disputed)"....I know
they exist I just do not know, nor think that you
or almost anyone knows, how many there are there and if they are ready to
fight for Ukraine and Ukraine lets them,
good for Ukraine.

The US military is full of nazi-sympthizers, white supremacists and
confderate soldiers so to speak. It is the US job
to keep them in military line. As well as civilian. It is what free
countries have to manage.

Still can't believe international law means nothing to you. Nothing. Nazis
would not have been brought to justice and kept
being beaten down afterward were it not for International law...

On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 11:35 AM Thomas Eckhardt <
huebschraeuber at protonmail.com> wrote:

>
> Am 12.02.2022 um 13:16 schrieb Mark Kohut:
>
> > Here's another, easier, contingent prediction. IF Autocrat-in-Chief
> > Rutin DOES commit the international war crime of invading a
> > sovereign country, what you wrote is
> > what he will claim. The (disputed) neo-Nazi battalions, part of the
> > Ukraine Army ready to fight for their country, 'attacked' the Russian
> > military exercise of bringing 130,000 soldiers
> > to the border of their state---obviously in self-defense readiness
> > against all those "neo-Nazi battalions" who were not there until the
> > Russian tanks were.
>
> There is nothing "disputed" about the Azov Battalion.
>
> The "international war crime of invading a sovereign country" reminds me
> of John Kerry:
>
> "You just don’t in the 21st century behave in 19th century fashion by
> invading another country on completely trumped up pretext."
>
> I predict that Putin will claim that there are WMD in Ukraine that can
> reach Moscow in 45 minutes. Or that Ukrainian soldiers took babies out
> of incubators, stole the incubators and left the babies to die. Or that
> Zelensky is planning a genocide of his own people and distributing
> Viagra to his soldiers. In any case, the facts will be fixed around the
> policy.
>
> > You are still Dr. Hilarious although not a Nazi as the plist said in
> > unison when I called you him before but just as crazily hilarious. The
> > mind boggles.
>
> What a weird ad hominem.
>
> > You
> > should look at them [Nazis]
> > in the US and see with whom they align, speaking of Russia Love...
>
> It may well be the case that some American neo-Nazis adore Putin's
> Russia. Others, as I have demonstrated before, train with the Azov
> Battalion:
>
> "Last month, an unsealed FBI indictment of four American white
> supremacists from the Rise Above Movement (RAM) declared that the
> defendants had trained with Ukraine’s Azov Battalion, a neo-Nazi militia
> officially incorporated into the country’s national guard. The training
> took place after the white supremacist gang participated in violent
> riots in Huntington Beach and Berkeley, California and Charlottesville,
> Virginia in 2017. The indictment stated that the Azov Battalion 'is
> believed to have participated in training and radicalizing United
> States-based white supremacy organizations.'
>
> After a wave of racist violence across America that culminated in the
> massacre of twelve Jewish worshippers at a Pittsburgh synagogue, the
> revelation that violent white supremacists have been traveling abroad
> for training and ideological indoctrination with a well-armed neo-Nazi
> militia should cause extreme alarm."
>
> "There is one likely explanation for the U.S. government’s hands-off
> approach to Azov recruitment: the extremist militia is fighting
> pro-Russian separatists as a front-line proxy of Washington. In fact,
> the United States has directly armed the Azov Battalion, forking over
> anti-tank rocket launchers and even sending a team of Army officers to
> meet in the field with Azov commanders in 2017.
>
> Though Congress passed legislation this year forbidding military aid to
> Azov on the grounds of its white supremacist ideology, the Trump
> administration’s authorization of $200 million in offensive weaponry and
> aid to the Ukrainian military makes it likely new stores of weapons will
> wind up the extremist regiment’s hands. When queried by reporters about
> evidence of American military training of Azov personnel, multiple U.S.
> army spokespersons admitted there was no mechanism in place to prevent
> that from happening."
>
>
> https://consortiumnews.com/2018/11/17/blowback-us-funded-ukraine-neo-nazis-mentor-us-white-supremacists/
>
> It seems that the Rise Above Movement, Donald Trump and you can agree on
> at least one thing: Arming the Azov Battalion is a good thing.
>
> I am anti-Nazi, and I disagree.
>
>


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