I apologize to all Plisters for my incessant Ukraine posts. Done.

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Sat Feb 19 18:07:24 UTC 2022


I don’t think you have anything to apologize for.  We happen to be living
right now in the middle of some world-shaking (Eurocentric, I know) events
equally absurdly and mad as any Pynchon’s written about.  Heikki is unhappy
because it is too close to home, not because of you.  And we should all
remember that we weren’t talking about this until certain members started
accusing others of us as being Nazi sympathizers.

David Morris

On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 12:58 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> I hope this disrespecting of the nature of the Pynchon listserve is
> balanced a little by miscellaneous Pynchon-related stuff I've found and
> taken the time to post over the years. ...
> But I also hardly know who reads anything posted anymore, lately only those
> few doing the BE Read and the few on the Ukraine thread. I thought I had
> done a couple of interesting Pynchon posts beyond BE that might get a
> response but........
> Probably the main reason why some, more than a few,  psychologically
> healthier than I may be, have left the Plist.
> So it goes.
>
> On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 12:39 PM Laura Kelber <laurakelber at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Mark, I actually had to relegate you to my spam folder, because your
> > incessant Ukraine posts were clogging up my inbox. Now, even my spam
> folder
> > is clogged. I think you posted about 70 times last night alone. You're
> > harming the p-list with all of this. Please stop.
> >
> > Best,
> > Laura
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 12:35 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Heikki,
> >>
> >> I will stop the Ukraine posting. And arguing with some about Ukraine.  I
> >> know it was too much but I wanted to get news down
> >> as it happened before IT happened........but this is not the list for
> >> that...
> >>
> >> I will do Pynchon still. If pynchon posts can keep you on, I hope you
> >> stay....
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 9:43 AM Heikki R <
> >> situations.journeys.comedy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > In Belarus, there are presently at least 1050 political prisoners.
> Since
> >> > the electoral farce of 2020 and the consequent uprising, more than
> 40000
> >> > political arrests have been made. Almost 5000 political trials have
> been
> >> > conducted. All of this has been made possible by Putin’s support. Some
> >> > observers were not totally certain whether Putin would continue
> >> supporting
> >> > the unpopular and heavy-handed Lukashenko. Well, he did, and now we
> are
> >> > witnessing the main reason why he did.
> >> >
> >> > In November 1939, Putin’s idol Stalin staged a pretext to start a
> winter
> >> > war. (Finland was included in the USSR’s “sphere of influence” in the
> >> > Molotov-Ribbentrop pact signed three months earlier.)
> >> >
> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelling_of_Mainila
> >> >
> >> > Now pretexts for another wintery war are in the making.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > For melancholy reasons, I’m withdrawing from this list for an
> indefinite
> >> > time.
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 1:10 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Sources within Russia report that Russian media are reporting more
> and
> >> >> more
> >> >> often
> >> >> on aggressive acts toward Russians in Ukraine. The creation of a
> >> defense
> >> >> for the invasion is
> >> >> escalating. There was a major shelling in the Donbass region which
> >> >> resulted
> >> >> in one publicly proclaimed
> >> >> slow death of a Ukrainian soldier. There was a planned film of an
> >> >> exploding
> >> >> pipeline, Russian news trucks
> >> >> just happened to be there to film Ukraine's surprise explosion. Open
> >> >> source
> >> >> analysts prove metadata shows Russia
> >> >>  filmed scenes of "the evacuation" two days ago, 16th. The day before
> >> they
> >> >> stepped up shelling and before
> >> >> the evacuation was announced.
> >> >>
> >> >> Others say that Russian actions, firing, along the border toward Kiev
> >> are
> >> >> up. Way up. No movement into Ukraine yet.
> >> >> Most say Kiev being targeted. Rockets to ground troops very active.
> >> >> Movement likely along a river to it. New: Russian backed puppet
> >> >> governments
> >> >> in Donbass announce mobilisation. All men 18-55 barred from leaving.
> >> >>
> >> >> When a Ukrainian evacuation of a major dangerous area was asked for,
> >> only
> >> >> 3400 left. Social media posts of
> >> >> many, many, who said they would stay and be ready to fight. The Daily
> >> >> Beast
> >> >> spoke to the head of an orphanage
> >> >> responsible for 225 children as they made the dangerous journey to a
> >> >> Russian checkpoint.
> >> >> “[It’s] a very tiring and stressful day and it is not even over,”
> Olga
> >> >> Volkova said, exasperated.
> >> >> --
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> >> >>
> >> >
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