more Ukraine research and thoughts.

Johnny Marr marrja at gmail.com
Thu Jan 27 16:46:39 UTC 2022


Pardon me? He’s out and out made a false comment about me and somehow I’m
the equivalent of a Covid denier? How dare you

Martin entirely refused to engage on my perfectly reasonable, evidenced
views on the Russian minority in Latvia, which geopolitical experts
recognise as providing an unstable aspect to East European politics which
Putin is keen to exploit. I’ve met enough Latvians, Lithuanians, Russians
and Ukrainians to know that this is a real dangerous issue in the East of
Europe.

Martin might well live in Ukraine, speak Ukrainian etc - they’re often the
last people you want to listen to, in the same way that the most ardent
football season ticket holders are the last people you want to talk to
about their team - they’re only going to give you an answer taken from a
narrow partisan perspective

I’m not into alternative facts. I am into facts. I’ve supplied a number of
facts that are inconvenient to your argument which you haven’t yet
countered. Saying people ‘feel’ a certain way doesn’t cut it. Better
arguments please.

On Thursday, January 27, 2022, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> What Martin says:
>
> Some of this conversation is like watching exchange between Dr. Anthony
> Fauci and Dr. Rand Paul on the subject of COVID. You decide who’s which:
>
> https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/01/12/
> opinions/anthony-fauci-rand-paul-senate-exchange-begala/index.html
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:04 AM Martin Dietze <mdietze at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> What probably separates the two of us is me having spent a considerable
>> amount of time in various parts of Ukraine over the last 25 years,
>> speaking
>> fluent Ukrainian and understanding Russian rather well and living amongst
>> Ukrainians where I am now.
>>
>> You can choose to trust me on this.
>> You can also do the research yourself by talking to a representative
>> number
>> of Ukrainians instead.
>> What you should better not do is believe what "alternative media",
>> geopolitics-loving bloggers and the like write about the country. 90% of
>> that stuff is pure fiction.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> m.
>>
>


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