more Ukraine research and thoughts.

[Joseph Tracy]

So maybe the people in the Donbass were fighting with the Ukrainian government for the heck of it. I don’t know who is putting forth the ‘purest’ fiction, but it’s not like the networks are trying real hard to find out what the people in eastern Ukraine are thinking.  

As far as who loves geopolitical bull, how is the push for NATO not geopolitical bull? Isn’t that the real heart of this. That Russia is saying no more Nato encroachment. I don’t believe there is any credible evidence that agreeing that Nato will stay out of Ukraine would result in Russia trying to take over Ukraine. 

So today the US made clear they are ignoring Russia’s position on Nato. This could effectively be the end of anything like negotiation.  What happens when Nato troops move in is not likely to be good for anyone. 
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> On Jan 27, 2022, at 10:03 AM, Martin Dietze <mdietze at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 at 15:49, Johnny Marr <marrja at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> and you’re not backing up your points with evidence
>> 
> 
> Neither are you.
> 
> What probably separates the two of us is me having spent a considerable
> amount of time in various parts of Ukraine over the last 25 years, speaking
> fluent Ukrainian and understanding Russian rather well and living amongst
> Ukrainians where I am now.
> 
> You can choose to trust me on this.
> You can also do the research yourself by talking to a representative number
> of Ukrainians instead.
> What you should better not do is believe what "alternative media",
> geopolitics-loving bloggers and the like write about the country. 90% of
> that stuff is pure fiction.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> m.
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