How many Ukrainians have to be massacred?

[David Morris]

I think he’s calling this entire period (quote from Bulletin of Atomic
Scientists) of “conflict” a “massacre.”  And the *participants were
Ukrainians. Russians were invaders*.

“February 2014 Putin’s Russia used military force to seize Crimea from
Ukraine and subsequently annexed it.”

“Shortly thereafter, in March 2014, Russian security and military forces
became involved in the conflict in Donbas in eastern Ukraine—*a conflict
that claimed approximately 14,000 lives.*”

On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 1:07 PM Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I was wondering about that, too, David. And I was also wondering about the
> full geopolitical context of said massacre(s?)...
>
> Jerky
>
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 9:03 AM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Presumably this particular Whataboutism is meant to imply that a “Russian
>> massacre” that (supposedly) happened in the Ukraine prior to the Russian
>> invasion in some way justifies or provides a more balanced understanding of
>> Russia’s current Genocidal War in Ukraine.
>>
>> Somehow the whole World didn’t notice that “Russian Massacre” at the
>> time, and even Russia’s huge propaganda machine failed to alert us about
>> it.  And even Russia isn’t using it as a Talking Point.  Hmmmmm?
>>
>> *Matthew 23:24, KJV
>> <http://www.christianbook.com/page/bibles/translations/kjv?navcat=Bibles%7CTranslations%7CKJV>: Ye blind
>> guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.*
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 3:58 AM Hübschräuber via Pynchon-l <
>> pynchon-l at waste.org> wrote:
>>
>>> ------- Original Message -------
>>> Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> schrieb am Dienstag, 31. Mai
>>> 2022 um 22:35:
>>>
>>> > When you ask "How many Russians were massacred before the invasion",
>>> what timeline are you referring to, precisely?
>>>
>>> I cannot speak for Joseph but as far as I can tell, the best numbers by
>>> a supposedly neutral party can be found here:
>>>
>>> https://ukraine.un.org/en/download/96187/168060
>>
>>