Germany, experts on Nazism as they say here, tell Russia to fuck off and speak the truth many couldn't see.

Martin Dietze mdietze at gmail.com
Wed Mar 9 20:10:46 UTC 2022


Something else for Thomas to take a look at:
https://twitter.com/stefsiohan/status/1501621715897655301/photo/1

I could reply to every single point of his pointless "proofs", but,
honestly, I am just too sick for this shit.

Have fun translating what I wrote in Ukrainian in my previous reply. Little
hint: there's a bit of a citation in it. That episode cost 13 border guards
their lives.



On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 at 21:04, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> <https://twitter.com/TristanSnell>
> Tristan Snell
> @TristanSnell
> <https://twitter.com/TristanSnell>
> ·
> 2h <https://twitter.com/TristanSnell/status/1501611041372971012>
> Putin just bombed a children’s and maternity hospital in Mariupol,
> Ukraine, literally murdering mothers and newborn babies.
>
>
> Look at all the violence Ukraine causes.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 2:08 PM Martin Dietze <mdietze at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So you can see what Russia has done.
>> Just do stop sharing bullshit.
>> Better watch some movie, you'll enjoy it:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVQrJ5-ap1c&t=2s
>> And if you still don't get it - Німецький вертоліт, іди нахуй!
>>
>> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 at 19:51, Thomas Eckhardt <
>> huebschraeuber at protonmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Martin Dietze: "a peaceful country".
>> >
>> >
>> > "Total conflict-related casualties in Ukraine in 2014-2021
>> >
>> > OHCHR estimates the total number of conflict-related casualties in
>> > Ukraine from 14 April 2014 to 31 December 2021 to be 51,000–54,0008:
>> > 14,200-14,400 killed (at least 3,404 civilians, estimated 4,400
>> > Ukrainian forces, and estimated 6,500 members of armed groups), and
>> > 37-39,000 injured (7,000–9,000 civilians, 13,800–14,200
>> > Ukrainian forces and 15,800-16,200 members of armed groups."
>> >
>> > "Civilian casualties caused by active hostilities in 2018-2021, per
>> > territory."
>> >
>> > In territory controlled by the self-proclaimed 'republics':
>> >
>> > 81.4 per cent
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> https://ukraine.un.org/sites/default/files/2022-02/Conflict-related%20civilian%20casualties%20as%20of%2031%20December%202021%20%28rev%2027%20January%202022%29%20corr%20EN_0.pdf
>> >
>> >
>> > Martin Dietze: "Anti semitism in modern Ukraine is actually at a very
>> > low level compared to neighbouring states, first of all Russia. The
>> > author does not seem to know about this, hence he feels ambivalent about
>> > Ukraine."
>> >
>> >
>> >  From the noted Russian propaganda outlet Haaretz:
>> >
>> > "'Clear the Kikes From Ukraine!' Who Will Confront Kiev's Spiraling
>> > anti-Semitism Problem?
>> >
>> > When the same vicious anti-Semitism is voiced by a far right militia
>> > leader and a Ukrainian diplomat, it's a sign how deeply Jew-hatred, and
>> > hyper-nationalist Holocaust revisionism are contaminating Ukrainian
>> > society and politics"
>> >
>> > "[A Ukrainian diplomat] went on to write: 'My God: Punish kikes,' and
>> > 'Babi Yar. Not kikes in 1941, but Ukrainians from 1918-1941 were killed
>> > here.' And: 'The Jews declared war against Germany back in March 1934,'
>> > and 'Death to anti-fascists.'
>> >
>> > His flagrant anti-Semitism is not an isolated example. That is clearer
>> > than ever reading the 23-page report on anti-Semitic incidents in
>> > Ukraine over the past year prepared by the United Jewish Community of
>> > Ukraine, the country’s Jewish community representative organization.
>> >
>> > The report’s depressing findings show that anti-Semitic tendencies are
>> > widespread across the right-wing political spectrum, among politicians
>> > of different party affiliations."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/.premium-clear-the-kikes-from-ukraine-who-will-confront-kiev-s-anti-semitism-problem-1.7910931
>> >
>> > The report by the United Jewish Community of Ukraine:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> https://jew.org.ua/images/pdf/Report%20Anti-Semitism%20in%20Ukraine%202018%20(UJCU%20REPORT).pdf
>> >
>> >
>> > "How perfectly this fits into Rusian propaganda."
>> >
>> > A good article on Ukraine's Nazi problem from another noted Russian
>> > propaganda outlet:
>> >
>> > "In recent months, Ukraine has experienced a wave of unchecked
>> > vigilantism. Institute Respublica, a local pro-democracy NGO, reported
>> > that activists are frequently harassed by vigilantes when holding legal
>> > meetings or rallies related to politically-controversial positions, such
>> > as the promotion of LGBT rights or opposition to the war. Azov and other
>> > militias have attacked anti-fascist demonstrations, city council
>> > meetings, media outlets, art exhibitions, foreign students and Roma."
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary-idUSKBN1GV2TY
>> >
>> >
>> > The ten commandments of propaganda apply to both sides:
>> >
>> > We do not want war.
>> > The enemy alone is to be blamed for the war.
>> > The enemy is inherently evil, resembling the devil.
>> > We defend a noble cause, not our own interest.
>> > The enemy commits atrocities on purpose; our mishaps are involuntary.
>> > The enemy uses illegal weapons.
>> > We suffer small losses, those of the enemy are enormous.
>> > Artists and intellectuals back our cause.
>> > Our cause is holy, it has a sacred character.
>> > Whoever doubts our propaganda, is a traitor.
>> >
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Morelli
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------- Original Message -------
>> > Martin Dietze <mdietze at gmail.com> schrieb am Dienstag, 8. März 2022 um
>> > 21:49:
>> >
>> >   > A rather subjective view, widely clueless about anti semitism in the
>> > whole of the east slavic world, both historically and today. Anti
>> > semitism in modern Ukraine is actually at a very low level compared to
>> > neighbouring states, first of all Russia. The author does not seem to
>> > know about this, hence he feels ambivalent about Ukraine. How perfectly
>> > this fits into Russian propaganda. And how damaging it is for a peaceful
>> > country invaded and systematically destroyed by an imperial-minded,
>> > blood-thirsty dicatorship. And how unsurprising that people who have
>> > "always known" about Ukraine as a country with a "nazi problem" now
>> > share this stuff.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Martin Dietze
>> [https://www.martins-braindumps.de/]
>> 1. Vorsitzender
>> Deutsch-Ukrainischer Kulturverein e.V.
>> [http://www.deutsch-ukrainischer-kulturverein.de/]
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>

-- 
Dr. Martin Dietze
[https://www.martins-braindumps.de/]
1. Vorsitzender
Deutsch-Ukrainischer Kulturverein e.V.
[http://www.deutsch-ukrainischer-kulturverein.de/]


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