NP: I'll call your Kennan and raise you a Mearshiemer

[Mark Kohut]

Without the NATO decisions, Europe would now be as good as over....

I FORCEFULLY REJECT, as most do, the use of the word
PROVOCATIONS....ANOTHER VILE bow to
Putin, lying criminal Putin; justifying his evil, international law crimes
by HIS desires is what this word does ......



On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 10:58 AM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thomas Eckhardt via Pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org> wrote:
>
> "Vladimir Putin's decision to launch a full-scale invasion of Ukraine is
>
>
> 1.  *A monstrous act of aggression* that has plunged the world into a
>> perilous
>> situation.
>
>
> 2. *By any ***reasonable standard*** his move was an
>> over-the-top response to ANY Ukrainian or NATO provocations.*
>
>
> HOWEVER, It wasn’t really
> *THAT* *UNREASONABLE*:
> (*She MADE me HIT her*)
>
> However, that conclusion is different from saying that there were no
>> provocations, as far too many policymakers and pundits in the West are
>> doing now.
>>
>> It has become especially fashionable in such circles to insist
>> that NATO's expansion to Russia's border was in no way responsible for
>> the current Ukraine crisis. Many dismiss all arguments to the contrary
>> as "echoing Putin's talking points," "siding with Putin,” or
>> circulating Russian propaganda and "disinformation." Leaving aside the ugly
>> miasma of McCarthyism enveloping such allegations, the underlying argument
>> is factually wrong
>
>
> But hasn’t Putin said he did it because the *NAZIS FORCED HIM TO*?
>
> So was it *NATO* or the *NAZIS*?
> Oh!  I know!!!   I know!!!
> The NAZIS we’re working for NATO!!!
> (Or maybe NATO is run by NAZIS?)
>
> David Morris
>
>