NP: I'll call your Kennan and raise you a Mearshiemer
Mark Kohut
mark.kohut at gmail.com
Sat Mar 12 16:11:30 UTC 2022
The NATO actions were not PROVOCATIONS under Yeltsin and
Gorbachev......which is why RIGHT WITH
THAT WORD........you have sided with the authoritarian fascist......as
always......
On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 10:58 AM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thomas Eckhardt via Pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org> wrote:
>
> "Vladimir Putin's decision to launch a full-scale invasion of Ukraine is
>
>
> 1. *A monstrous act of aggression* that has plunged the world into a
>> perilous
>> situation.
>
>
> 2. *By any ***reasonable standard*** his move was an
>> over-the-top response to ANY Ukrainian or NATO provocations.*
>
>
> HOWEVER, It wasn’t really
> *THAT* *UNREASONABLE*:
> (*She MADE me HIT her*)
>
> However, that conclusion is different from saying that there were no
>> provocations, as far too many policymakers and pundits in the West are
>> doing now.
>>
>> It has become especially fashionable in such circles to insist
>> that NATO's expansion to Russia's border was in no way responsible for
>> the current Ukraine crisis. Many dismiss all arguments to the contrary
>> as "echoing Putin's talking points," "siding with Putin,” or
>> circulating Russian propaganda and "disinformation." Leaving aside the ugly
>> miasma of McCarthyism enveloping such allegations, the underlying argument
>> is factually wrong
>
>
> But hasn’t Putin said he did it because the *NAZIS FORCED HIM TO*?
>
> So was it *NATO* or the *NAZIS*?
> Oh! I know!!! I know!!!
> The NAZIS we’re working for NATO!!!
> (Or maybe NATO is run by NAZIS?)
>
> David Morris
>
>
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