DeLillo adaptations

[rich]

Interest take, Q (the good Q)

I somewhat agree with your argument, especially with the post-Underworld
novels. I don't hate it, but I can see how his dialogue may annoy others. I
can't say Libra or many bits of Underworld have that quality, in fact, the
historical reproductions of the Bronx in U and Oswald and his ilk in Libra
are tour-de-forces imho. In fact, Libra is probably my favorite DeLillo.
It's also interesting that you like Tarantino since I kinda feel about QT
as how you feel about DeLillo. the man's work terribly annoys me and all
his imitators, the Raymond Carver of the pictures. ugh

Mike White. hmm. it's been hard for me to like since Chuck and Buck. I
think he's gotten better however--and his female characters are top notch.
the White Lotus is quite good. I didnt like the series with Laura Dern but
the Jennifer Aniston as waitress in a dead town is good, too. White is in
it, not sure he directed. I think he did. All that to say, he's not my cup
of tea but he is talented.

I had a strong DeLillo phase and I will read anything he writes (a sadly
dwindling number for writers for me), but the best times are past. Maybe
that's just what happens. folks get old, etc. I still will claim the best
thing about Bleeding Edge was that you wouldnt have known it was written by
some guy in his 70s. and if it is the last one we see from Mr P I guess
that's not a bad way to end things (fingers still crossed of course)

yr ob'd sv't
rich

On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 11:57 AM Allen Ruch <quail at shipwrecklibrary.com>
wrote:

> To begin with a confession, I kind of hate DeLillo. I know he’s a great
> writer, and his sentences are perfect, yes, yes, I get it. I’ve read
> several of his books, but abandoned many more. The thing is: I HATE HIS
> DIALOGUE. It’s so ridiculously stylized and overly-pretentious for me, I
> just can’t get into it. Which is weird, I mean I love Shakespeare and
> Quentin Tarantino; but there’s something about DeLillo’s characters that
> make me *hate* them, and that makes me hate the books, which makes me hate
> DeLillo’s writing. It’s like Wes Anderson movies: I just want to punch each
> and every character, then punch the director.
>
> Having said that, there has been one solid DeLillo adaptation: David
> Cronenberg’s “Cosmopolis.” He adapts the dialogue pretty straight from the
> book—which makes me hate it (see above)—but the entire thing is pretty
> saturated with satire, and I think does a lot of justice to the source
> material. And Robert Pattinson is amazing, as usual.
>
> I have very little hope that Noah Baumbach is going to make a good movie
> out of “White Noise,” but at least someone is trying.
>
> Now, how about a prestige-TV series based on “The Recognitions,” written
> and directed by Mike White? That I’d fucking watch! Yeah man, I’d watch the
> fucking shit out of that.
>
> —Quail
>
> From: Pynchon-l <pynchon-l-bounces at waste.org> on behalf of Erik T. Burns <
> eburns at gmail.com>
> Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 4:52 PM
> To: rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
> Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Subject: Re: Pynchon at the Beach
> I suppose it would be possible to take White Noise so seriously that one
> entirely misses the point.
>
> I hope that doesn't happen, though I had also hoped no one would ever make
> movies out of his books. They feel like they might make good movies but I
> don't think they will, really. Kind of like Stephen King, for that matter
> (where, aside from a handful of exceptions including The Shining, Stand By
> Me and Shawshank Redemption, the cinematic versions inerrantly blow.)
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 9:06 PM rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > on an another note: the trailer for Baumbach's take on White Noise left
> me
> > scratching my head--I get it's just a first look but it feels or
> suggests a
> > Hollywood 80s Godzilla disaster movie. I'm not sure how DeLillo's satire
> > translates to film and I consider WN satire. the trailer exudes such
> > seriousness which I hope doesn't get all the attention. DD is at his best
> > mixing the humorous with the profound--I'd be shocked and disappointed if
> > the former wasn;t given its due. Don Cheedle as Murray Suskind gives me
> > some hope
> >
> > rich
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