Re: “Russia is trying to get the Ukraine to come to its senses.”

Darah Kehnemuyi darahk1 at yahoo.com
Fri Sep 30 12:33:56 UTC 2022


 Wonder how sensible it would seem to Putin if Ukraine decided to annex Russia ?        
    On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 06:05:57 AM EDT, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Bullshit.....all blind self-deceiving LIES.....Joseph can always find
another Blind Boy---I mean, the flat earth society still exists; Robert
Kennedy Jr is an anti-vaxxer---
to spread fake news and the opinions they lead to.

And lots of supposed liberals want this INVASION to end with a deal in
which Ukraine loses some of its sovereign land. Which Zelensky and all the
leadership of Ukraine
(and the peoples of) say NO to..

Joseph projects such much ghostly past onto present America that he still
will not believe what Biden, the whole State Department and all say:
Ukraine calls the shots and goals
and we help as we can.....Joseph should at least join the liberals----but
he is not one---who argue America is too slow to help.....

On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 1:51 AM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

> US, UK sabotaged peace deal because they ‘don’t care about Ukraine’: AARON
> MATÉ·SEPTEMBER 27, 2022
>
> Former Swiss intelligence officer and NATO adviser Jacques Baud on the
> next phase of the Russia-Ukraine war and new allegations that the US and UK
> undermined a peace deal that could have ended it.
>
> The West’s aim “is not the victory of Ukraine, It’s the defeat of Russia,”
> Baud says. “The problem is that nobody cares about Ukraine. We have just
> instrumentalized Ukraine for the purpose of US strategic interests — not
> even European interests.”
>
> Guest: Jacques Baud. Former intelligence officer with the Swiss Strategic
> Intelligence Service who has served in a number of senior security and
> advisory positions at NATO, the United Nations, and with the Swiss military.
>
>
>        • In his Sept. 21 speech, Putin did not make an explicit threat to
> use nuclear weapons. He vowed to “make use of all weapon systems available
> to us,” in the event of “a threat to the territorial integrity of our
> country and to defend Russia and our people.”
>        • On nuclear weapons, the US did not have a “No First Use” policy.
> On the 2020 campaign trail, Joe Biden said that he supported the idea of
> “No First Use.” He abandoned that in his presidential nuclear posture; but
> that was reversing his campaign stance, not official US policy.
>
>
> > On Sep 29, 2022, at 12:52 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
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> > If only the rest of the world were as SENSIBLE as Joey T and Russia…
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 25, 2022 at 6:27 PM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> > > Why does a "special operation" take seven months and require
> conscription of civilians after seven months ?
> > Why? […] Because Russia has not done this special military operation in
> the manner of shock and awe US mass killing with massive civilian
> casualties, but is trying to get the Ukraine to come to its senses.
> >
> >  As to people leaving Russia. […] There are also thousands fleeing Nato
> territory for Russia.  People try to escape trouble and death during war.
> Very sensible.
>
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