NP but close

[Mark Kohut]

Isn't it so interesting that Pynchon always had more and deeper themes than
the paranoia of the times of the sixties and GR, which he also
challenged even in that novel. "What if nothing connects?.......

And his later Ironic look at paranoia and conspiracy shows where he has
gone in seeing unfolding America while you keep repeating the dead
literal past as if THAT is what TRP was writing about. He wasn't.

And although folks like you and Joseph decide to favor Russia over the US
all the way down to the turtles, you cannot even get his constant Mischa
and Grisha pairings.........

......that Tablet writer has so many facts wrong, as well as the usual
sleazy supposed logic.....associative slippery slope thinking not logic.....

On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 4:35 PM Hübschräuber via Pynchon-l <
pynchon-l at waste.org> wrote:

>
> ------- Original Message -------
> Dee Kilroy <deadendkid76 at gmail.com> schrieb am Montag, 3. April 2023 um
> 17:10:
>
> > It's a knee-slapper you're even bothering to answer.
>
> Simple common courtesy.
>
> > Pynchon grew up in a society that was actively at war with itself, under
> a government whose agents were infiltrating the social justice movements of
> the period so as to control, dismantle & destroy them, in a place where a
> narc named Charlie Manson regularly talked to fed handlers, at a time when
> the CIA were grooming Jim Jones, after the FBI had bugged Martin Luther
> King's bedroom, when MK-Ultra had been renting brothels & mindfucking
> people with LSD in barely-secretive decadance for decades. Pynchon lived
> and breathed paranoia in a way the generations of This Internet may-- very
> soon, & sorrowful for not having gotten hip sooner --come to empathize
> with, because The Op is all around us now, vast & turgid in its boring,
> tonedeaf insistence of authority, and the rubes are nigh unto infinite.
>
> I know. You think your society is not "actively at war with itself" now?
>
> > One of the faces of That Leviathan is the shitty linkposter.
> >
> > Pynchon has fuck all in common with people like you, Hübe. You're a
> parasite here, pushing disinfo, and I'd like to say j'accuse. You're
> polluting > the list. You're the problem. You're not here for the topic.
> You're here for your agenda. Shut the fuck up and go away.
>
> And what agenda might that be?
>
> I suggest that the quote from Discourse magazine I forwarded does not only
> apply to the "mighty of this earth":
>
> - Disinformation is just a jargon word with a subliminal meaning, thrown
> out by the mighty of the earth whenever they worry that they are about to
> lose an argument—something that happens with painful regularity these days.
> The word means, “Shut up, peasant.” It’s a bullet aimed at killing the
> conversation. It’s loaded with hostility to reason, evidence, debate and
> all the stuff that makes our democracy great. -
>
> QED. You have no arguments. Only ad hominem. And no, I won't shut up.
> --
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