In re: Two nice links (np) longish (876 words)

[Mark Kohut]

I resent deeply your attempt to say you know what the US stands for.....

And all the overgeneralizations always persist........

On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 4:55 PM Hübschräuber via Pynchon-l <
pynchon-l at waste.org> wrote:

> > Rather than “shut up, peasant”, isn’t tagging something as disinformation
> > more like “hey, fact to bloviation ratio is low, rabble-rousing quotient
> > high, ulterior motives are evident, & presence of patent untruths is
> > non-trivial?”
>
> This is very good advice for the discerning reader/viewer/listener. Jacob
> Siegel is talking about something else, however: Labelling information,
> truthful or not, as disinformation demonstrably led to the censorship of
> alternative views, newspapers and renowned professors of medicine. In the
> three cases named in the quote I provided, the information was truthful -
> or is anyone still claiming that "Hunter Biden's laptop" was not Hunter
> Biden's laptop, that the lab leak hypothesis is a "conspiracy theory" (the
> fact that Trump/the Republican Party indeed used the lab leak hypothesis to
> concoct an anti-Chinese conspiracy theory is a completely different matter)
> or that the so-called vaccines prevent transmission? People lost their
> livelihoods over this, although they were right and have been vindicated.
>
> We now know that the US government, the intelligence services, the media
> and the internet companies colluded behind the scenes to make sure that
> certain kinds of information, truthful or not, did not reach the discerning
> reader/viewer/listener. If they could not prevent the information from
> being published, they made sure that everybody knew that it was officially
> labelled as "disinformation", and that everybody who believed it was surely
> either a Trumpist, a Russian stooge or a "COVID denier". And who would want
> to be any of those things?
>
> Call me naive, but to me this seems to go against everything the US used
> to stand for.
>
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