Not P but Moby-Dick (6)

[Alexei du Périer]

Ian is correct.

Le mar. 29 août 2023 à 05:23, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> a écrit :

> Right. Elevation of the Whale Cosmology. And driving down the hat
> (obligatory homage) to a tryant versus  a celebratory raising and waving of
> the hat to Queequeg, the savage.
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 11:03 PM Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > My impression is that Melville throughout this chapter is thumbing his
> > nose at warriors and conquerors as cowardly lugs in comparison to the
> > whaling man, who takes his noble battle right to the throne of God. Ergo,
> > "drive down your hat" seems to mean pull your hat down snug on your head
> to
> > the cowardly royals (the Czar) on land; doff it and bow in honor to the
> > great whaler (Queequeg).
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 2:57 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> “Drive down” your hat for the Czar.
> >> (versus? the same action/sentiment?)
> >> “Take off” your hat for Queequeg.
> >>
> >> I take it the point is to raise Queequeg to the status of the Czar.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 5:42 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > seems some old slang says: pull down; lower [the cap, brim of] your
> >> > hat.....
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 3:40 PM Mike Jing <
> >> gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > The following excerpt is from Chapter 24:
> >> > >
> >> > > No dignity in whaling? The dignity of our calling the very heavens
> >> > attest.
> >> > > Cetus is a constellation in the South! No more! Drive down your hat
> in
> >> > > presence of the Czar, and take it off to Queequeg!
> >> > >
> >> > > What does "drive down" mean here? Some of the previous translations
> >> > > interpreted it as "remove", which doesn't seem right.
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