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[Joseph Tracy]

I am familiar with all these lame accusations. Every one of them. I have found no merit at all in any of them. I could go into an exhaustive response but the problem is these are vague, general accusations that depend on values and world view and a willingness or not  to question the CIA narratives about “enemy” states  as opposed to wonderful democracies and friends of the US like Egypt, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Poland or the Phillipines.  If you have an actual claim of specific falsehood, let’s hear it. Again, I won’t hold my breath. 
   I recently posted on the p site an article by Patrick Lawrence commenting on the Gerth piece about the the corruption of the press via the ludicrous Russiagate story. In it he mentions as background that in 1977 Carl Bernstein published in the Rolling Stone his finding that there were over 400 CIA assets working in US media. That was 1977, the numbers today are staggering and CIA controlled media are throughout the globe. Today we regulalrly find both CIA and FBI direct censorship in major social media and we find  that ex CIA, FBI  and ex Mossad are a major part of the staff of these social media.  Of course it is hard to know this when one has firmly adopted the blind deaf and dumb monkey posture. 
  
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/02/07/patrick-lawrence-the-press-reckoning-on-russiagate/ <https://consortiumnews.com/2023/02/07/patrick-lawrence-the-press-reckoning-on-russiagate/>

> On Mar 14, 2023, at 3:56 AM, Martin Dietze <mdietze at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Still abusing pynchon-l for your quest to prove a big conspiracy around Ukraine?
> 
> "The Grayzone" isn't what we call a reliable source:
> A fringe <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fringe_theory> website,[23] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-23> It is known for misleading reporting <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misinformation>[24] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-24> and sympathetic coverage of authoritarian regimes <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian_regimes>.[1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:0-1>[15] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:1-15>[25] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-25> The Grayzone has denied human rights abuses against Uyghurs <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide>,[29] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-29> promulgated conspiracy theories about Venezuela <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela>, Xinjiang <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang>, Syria <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria> and other regions,[30] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-30>[31] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:7-31> and promoted pro-Russian propaganda <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation_in_the_2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine> during the Russian invasion of Ukraine <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine>.[28] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-Ellery-28> The Grayzone has been described by Commentary <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commentary_(magazine)> as a propaganda shop devoted to pushing pro-Assad, pro-Maduro <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicol%C3%A1s_Maduro>, pro-Putin <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin>, and pro-Hamas <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas> narratives.[32] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:5-32>
> The linked sources are worthwhile looking into.
> 
> nuff said.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 at 05:00, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net <mailto:brook7 at sover.net>> wrote:
> https://thegrayzone.com/2023/03/12/academic-journal-maidan-massacre/ <https://thegrayzone.com/2023/03/12/academic-journal-maidan-massacre/> <https://thegrayzone.com/2023/03/12/academic-journal-maidan-massacre/ <https://thegrayzone.com/2023/03/12/academic-journal-maidan-massacre/>>
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> Pynchon-L: https://waste.org/mailman/listinfo/pynchon-l <https://waste.org/mailman/listinfo/pynchon-l>
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> 
> -- 
> Dr. Martin Dietze
> [https://www.martins-braindumps.de/ <https://www.martins-braindumps.de/>]
> 
> 1. Vorsitzender - Deutsch-Ukrainischer Kulturverein e.V.
> Голова - Німецько-Українське Товариство Культури
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> 
> Redakteur / Редактор - Karpaty Lviv Nachrichten
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