Catch 22 and the cult of loyalty

Tue May 23 11:30:28 UTC 2023

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> "I guess these days if you’re going to support, Russia, you have to support
> Trump also. What a wonderful irony."

Hey Morris, why the fuck did you put a comma after the word support? It seems like Kohut's prose style is affecting you.    I don’t pay taxes in Russia and don’t pay war taxes in America, so I don’t know what you mean by support. Did you think Putin was getting contributions from Americans? But I barely expect meaning from you let alone logic. You seem to forget that Ukrainian lives are being lost while the US plays nuclear chicken. When Trump beats the idiot Biden as several polls indicate, he will do it without any support from me. I don’t vote for criminal pieces of shit like these 2 idiots. What a pathetic mess, we have a president who can’t speak extemporaneously in public, let alone debate, and can’t even make his way off a podium without help, and he is very likely to be beaten by one of the most obnoxious persons alive. No wonder so many Americans are walking around looking like they are about to toss their lunch.

Can you spell Mueller, Kohut? No collusion was the major conclusion, despite your confusion. In case you didn’t quite understand the whole Russiagate story, it was not really about some idiot and ineffective posts on facebook by alleged or real Russians. It was a theory of Trump being compromised by Russia, and a bullshit scam from its beginning in the sewers of the Hillary campaign to its post-mortem zombie afterlife in mainstream media outlets begging for censorship to keep their CIA ass-kissing operations afloat. 

> On May 20, 2023, at 6:26 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Can you spell Mueller, Joseph?   
> 
> Russians proven and charged...
> 
> Durham disgraced...
> 
> On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 6:24 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com <mailto:fqmorris at gmail.com>> wrote:
> *“Durham report […] concludes of russiagate that there were no Russians, no
> collusion dirt”*
> 
> Straight out lies, first sentence.  Of course.
> 
> I guess these days if you’re going to support, Russia, you have to support
> Trump also. What a wonderful irony.
> 
> Way to go, JoeyT!
> 
> On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 5:32 PM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net <mailto:brook7 at sover.net>> wrote:
> 
> > Below is a link to a long intelligent and literate discussion between Matt
> > Taibbi and Walter Kirin about the Durham report, a report  that concludes
> > about the origins and development of russiagate mania that there were no
> > Russians, no collusion dirt, no telling emails but a fair number of drinks.
> > The sad part is there is also no acknowledgement by mainstream media of any
> > value for this attempt at a conclusive neutral review,  no admission of
> > McCarthyist witch hunting, no learning from past mistakes, and no
> > renunciation of the dangers posed by over 50 well funded private and
> > government operations to censor the kind of skeptics who got russiagate
> > right, those doubters  who questioned the safe and effective narrative, who
> > questioned WMDs in Iraq  and who  currently question the US’s headlong rush
> > toward WW3?  After years of research showing no evidence supporting the
> > Russiagate accusations ( I have always despised Trump and would be happy to
> > see him convicted of a real crime) it is time to accept that political
> > propaganda is dangerous, corrupting and expensive and that a media guided
> > by political, commercial or  blind government loyalty does not serve our
> > still precarious attempt at a constitutional democratically-elected
> > republic.
> >   The discussion in the last 3rd of the show about Catch 22,  focusing on
> > the loyalty oath, is particularly relevant and illustrates the power of
> > well constructed satire vs  the political arguments taking place in a world
> > where everyone wants to have their own facts.
> >
> >
> >
> > https://www.racket.news/p/episode-39-america-this-week-with?utm_source=podcast-email%2Csubstack&publication_id=1042&post_id=122552662&utm_medium=email#details <https://www.racket.news/p/episode-39-america-this-week-with?utm_source=podcast-email%2Csubstack&publication_id=1042&post_id=122552662&utm_medium=email#details>
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> > https://www.racket.news/p/episode-39-america-this-week-with?utm_source=podcast-email,substack&publication_id=1042&post_id=122552662&utm_medium=email#details <https://www.racket.news/p/episode-39-america-this-week-with?utm_source=podcast-email,substack&publication_id=1042&post_id=122552662&utm_medium=email#details>
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