Not P but Moby-Dick (41)
Ian Livingston
igrlivingston at gmail.com
Mon Nov 13 14:22:28 UTC 2023
Also, as I recall, the Opium Wars had ended just a decade (+/-) prior to
MD, leading to upheaval in the power structure of the Eastern Pac. But you
may know more about that than we do, Mike. The Americans played a small
part in that, but that was a considerable contributor to the slave markets
on the West Coast of North America, resulting in increased traffic
throughout the Pacific from the West, until the dust settled following the
American Civil War. "And so on," as Vonnegut always says.
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 6:03 AM Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Any lobsterman will tell you the Atlantic can whip up a savage storm.
> Also, the islands of the Atlantic were well known by this time, whereas
> broad areas of the Pacific remained largely uncharted to the Western world,
> though well known to the inhabitants of those regions.
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 5:03 AM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes. This is definitely the intended meaning.
>>
>> Essentially, the map represents a kind of conquest over nature and
>> barbarity
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 4:15 PM Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Explored, mapped, and charted for efficiency crossing and arriving intact
>>> at the intended destination.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 11:47 AM Mike Jing <
>>> gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > From Chapter 54:
>>> >
>>> > You must know that in a settled and civilized ocean like our Atlantic,
>>> for
>>> > example, some skippers think little of pumping their whole way across
>>> > it; though
>>> > of a still, sleepy night, should the officer of the deck happen to
>>> forget
>>> > his duty in that respect, the probability would be that he and his
>>> > shipmates would never again remember it, on account of all hands gently
>>> > subsiding to the bottom. Nor in the solitary and savage seas far from
>>> you
>>> > to the westward, gentlemen, is it altogether unusual for ships to keep
>>> > clanging at their pump-handles in full chorus even for a voyage of
>>> > considerable length; that is, if it lie along a tolerably accessible
>>> coast,
>>> > or if any other reasonable retreat is afforded them.
>>> >
>>> > What does "settled" mean here?
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