Not P but Moby-Dick (41)

[Ian Livingston]

I’d say it might include the opposite of solitary.  One can be very alone in a settled place. 


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> On Nov 14, 2023, at 1:42 AM, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, of course. It's the contrast between the Atlantic and the Pacific, the
> former is "settled and civilized", while the latter is "solitary and
> savage". Since "civilized" and "savage" are opposites, "settled" might in
> some sense be the opposite of "solitary". Or maybe not.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 5:27 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The solitary and savage seas are not the Atlantic but [the seas] "far from
>> you to the westward".
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 1:35 AM Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> That's certainly a possibility, but "settled and civilized" seems to
>>> contrast with "solitary and savage" in the next sentence.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 4:07 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> quiet,,,,not turbulent, no storms, etc.....
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 2:47 PM Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> From Chapter 54:
>>>>> 
>>>>> You must know that in a settled and civilized ocean like our Atlantic,
>>>>> for
>>>>> example, some skippers think little of pumping their whole way across
>>>>> it; though
>>>>> of a still, sleepy night, should the officer of the deck happen to
>>>>> forget
>>>>> his duty in that respect, the probability would be that he and his
>>>>> shipmates would never again remember it, on account of all hands gently
>>>>> subsiding to the bottom. Nor in the solitary and savage seas far from
>>>>> you
>>>>> to the westward, gentlemen, is it altogether unusual for ships to keep
>>>>> clanging at their pump-handles in full chorus even for a voyage of
>>>>> considerable length; that is, if it lie along a tolerably accessible
>>>>> coast,
>>>>> or if any other reasonable retreat is afforded them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What does "settled" mean here?
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>>>>> 
>>>> 
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