Not P but Moby-Dick (49)

Ian Livingston igrlivingston at gmail.com
Tue Nov 28 13:58:28 UTC 2023


I would think of the whale, not the boat, as the horse.

On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 5:56 AM Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Precisely. If one is not fully able to keep upright and alert in the
> action of the moment that "buoyancy" is lost and he is at risk of "being
> made a Mazeppa of" by being caught in line dragged into great harm.
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 12:52 AM Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I thought "being made a Mazeppa of" meant being caught in the line and "run
>> away with where the all-seeing sun himself could never pierce you out",
>> therefore the boat would not be compared to the horse, although there are
>> some similarities here.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 11:25 PM Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It may help to have this context:
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazeppa_(poem) which inclines me to the
>>> notion of the ability to stay upright and mobile in the tossing boat.
>>> So I'll suggest the intent is to elicit "nimble footed and lithe in the
>>> limbs."
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 8:48 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Optimistic -(enough) equanimity...
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 11:44 AM Mike Jing <
>>>> gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > From Chapter 60:
>>>> >
>>>> > It is worse; for you cannot sit motionless in the heart of these
>>>> perils,
>>>> > because the boat is rocking like a cradle, and you are pitched one
>>>> way and
>>>> > the other, without the slightest warning; and only by a certain
>>>> > self-adjusting buoyancy and simultaneousness of volition and action,
>>>> can
>>>> > you escape being made a Mazeppa of, and run away with where the
>>>> all-seeing
>>>> > sun himself could never pierce you out.
>>>> >
>>>> > What does "buoyancy" mean here?
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