Not P but Moby-Dick (17)

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Fri Sep 29 20:36:33 UTC 2023


I say Yes....

On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 4:29 PM Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
wrote:

> So here the soul is compared to "wild, untutored things", and is forced to
> feed on the knowledge, is that correct? Some of the existing translations
> are giving ridiculous interpretations.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 5:20 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "held to knowledge" is my new favorite phrase, i've just decided.....it
>> means, simplistically,
>> "foreknowledge"......the uses are mostly legal, earliest I can find
>> within a few years of Moby Dick,--1856--
>> in which the meaning is made clear: the person knew (or should have)
>> already when making certain decisions
>> such that the knowledge they are "held to" matters for contracts,
>> arrangements they enter into....one example
>> given is of a person who was at a vital meeting where the Minutes show
>> facts, knowledge was recorded as
>> known--or should be because they were there taking part---and therefore
>> the person can not claim they did
>> not know Whatever when they entered into a contract.....
>>
>> A later in time use links it (as well) to eyewitness seeing of a fact
>> (not secondhand).......reverberating this morning
>> with the US congresswoman AOC who led her questioning with the law that
>> in an impeachment trial actual firsthand
>> witnessing of supposed impeachment acts is what is demanded of
>> 'witnesses" and getting all three testifiers, including the
>> lead attorney,, to go on record saying they have no such
>> evidence......they only have further "inquiries"....
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 4:50 AM Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  From Chapter 38:
>>>
>>> The long howl thrills me through! Peace! ye revellers, and set the watch!
>>> Oh, life! ’tis in an hour like this, with soul beat down and held to
>>> knowledge,—as wild, untutored things are forced to feed—Oh, life! ’tis
>>> now
>>> that I do feel the latent horror in thee!
>>>
>>> What does "held to knowledge" mean here?
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