Not P but Moby-Dick (15)

[David Morris]

Oh? I think I prefer at least a little self-conflict. I’m also a big fan of
a madness duet, and sometimes a whole ship full can be endlessly
provocative

On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 4:56 PM Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Great madness is solipsistic.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 1:54 PM Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Great madness is most aggravated when confronted with rationality, and
> > finds calm in its own company, i.e., when alone.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 1:01 PM Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Three previous translations rendered it as "Only someone who is
> completely
> >> mad can calmly comprehend his own madness", which doesn't seem right to
> >> me.
> >> Another interpreted it as "Such ridiculous madness is only the calmness
> >> needed in order to comprehend itself", which makes even less sense. I'm
> >> still not quite sure what it is saying myself.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 4:56 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > If madness can be doubled or squared---as in "madness maddened"---then
> >> > stepping down
> >> > from that, simple madness leaves enough mental space---so to
> speak---to
> >> > comprehend itself.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 9:44 PM Mike Jing <
> >> gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> From Chapter 37:
> >> >>
> >> >> What I’ve dared, I’ve willed; and what I’ve willed, I’ll do! They
> >> think me
> >> >> mad—Starbuck does; but I’m demoniac, I am madness maddened! That wild
> >> >> madness that’s only calm to comprehend itself! The prophecy was that
> I
> >> >> should be dismembered; and—Aye! I lost this leg. I now prophesy that
> I
> >> >> will
> >> >> dismember my dismemberer.
> >> >>
> >> >> What does "That wild madness that’s only calm to comprehend itself"
> >> mean?
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