Not P but Moby-Dick (58)

Mike Jing gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com
Wed Jan 24 20:19:26 UTC 2024


Yes. And later on the Captain was referred to as being German, so it may
not be relevant in this respect.


On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 12:42 PM Michael Bailey <
michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:

> Although it may imply that the Captain is Dutch, the overt meaning is that
> one sees the Dutch or German flag on ships, right?
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 11:31 PM Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The next sentence is:
>>
>> At one time the greatest whaling people in the world, the Dutch and
>> Germans are now among the least; but here and there at very wide intervals
>> of latitude and longitude, you still occasionally meet with their flag in
>> the Pacific.
>>
>> This seems to imply the Captain is Dutch, and Derick De Deer indeed looks
>> like a Dutch name.
>>
>> Thanks all for responding.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 11:21 PM Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I concede, given a day and your examples.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 2:41 PM Michael Bailey <
>>> michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Yes imho that is exactly it
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 10:21 AM Mike Jing <
>>> gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > For some reason, it feels to me that "Derick De Deer, master" is
>>> > > parenthetical,
>>> > > and the "of Bremen" is actually referring to the ship.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 8:57 AM Ian Livingston <
>>> igrlivingston at gmail.com>
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > To the city in Germany the captain comes from.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 11:28 PM Mike Jing <
>>> > > gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >> From Chapter 81:
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> The predestinated day arrived, and we duly met the ship Jungfrau,
>>> > Derick
>>> > > >> De
>>> > > >> Deer, master, of Bremen.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Does the "of Bremen" refer to the ship or the captain?
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