The Crying of Lot 49. Group Read 2024

[David Morris]

I’m getting all picky, because one of the Chief Players in this discussion
is inherently controversial (because of the “S” word: SPIRITUAL) definition
of REALITY

On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 8:01 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> You've got some typos I think but all I can say is It was all more gradual
> than your questions seem to imply, to me..
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 7:59 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Modernity and the Loss of [Endless List of Valuable Things attributed to
>> EFFECTS of the ADVENT of Modernity]. Picking nits, but chicken/egg
>> questions arise here: Did we of actually lose the essence of the VALUES
>> these things, and THEN seek their replacement with the new creation of
>> MODERNITY?
>>
>> But we can prioritize the importance of the “valuable things lost” and
>> see a cascade of losses stemming from a MOST VALUABLE (or most CAUSLE) of
>> things lost in the cascading conflagration.
>>
>>  <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> “The disenchantment of the world” is a phrase that I take from Max
>>> Weber, who spoke of the eclipse of magical and animistic beliefs about
>>> nature as part of the more general process of “rationalization” which he
>>> saw as the defining feature of modernity in the West.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 5:46 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *1. Modern world has lost its: “enchantment [ ] spiritual/religious
>>>> chain of being”*
>>>>
>>>> A?) How/Why did “it” get lost?
>>>> B?) Shall we try to define “it”?  Or should we assume it is ACTUALLY
>>>> ineffable?
>>>>
>>>> *2.  Losing that connection in modernity[…]*
>>>>
>>>> A?) What? Big jump of assumptions (see 1.A? above)
>>>> B?) What about “Modern” makes it the change-maker?
>>>>
>>>