CoL49 - Arrabal

[Joseph Tracy]

Mark
 I appreciate the respectful reconsideration of the topic.  And I really do sincerely want to hear more of how you characterize the overall arc of this book.
Hamlet is an interesting choice. I never heard that Hamlet might be about Henry the 5th, and it is clearly not a veiled historic event.  The story is about a prince returned home from a theological center to find that circumstances and troubling dreams pose existential questions and point to the murder of his father.   So what Hamlet is about, at least in part, is how do we respond when we have a very strong belief that serious foul play has stolen something central to our picture of the world and disinherited ourselves or others. What is the import of a violent coup for those directly affected.? It is a theme that runs through history and fiction from Hamlet and Lear to Hitler, Dag Hammeschold and  Star Wars. At one point in COL 49 which I recently mentioned, OM entertains a death wish like Hamlet. 
  JFK? Once the myth of the lone gunman, and the communist agent  was discredited  as happened for many serious investigators, and once CIA and Mafia fingerprints are revealed,  a chasm opens that for those truly thoughtful and skeptical of the reliability of government to investigate and disclose truth,   is as serious as anything one might consider. Essentially a GIANT SOUL RENDING WTF similar to what Hamlet faced . It is far more unlikely to me  that Pynchon did not have a serious enough reaction  to write about it than the possibility  that he did write about it via an indirect work of fiction which deliberately avoids the potential dangers of something more pointed.  Plausible deniability is not strictly limited to politicians. 
> On Jul 12, 2024, at 4:35 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I am caught out on my use of "buy". I usually don't use that but I did...
> 
> I take it back. Apologizes.
> 
> I am not trying to set the limits of conversation, however. Hollander and
> Joseph are
> all here, and others, aren't they?....
> 
> I am trying for a text-based reading that illumines *The Crying of Lot 49*.
> Hollander and
> much of Joseph does not. IMO.
> 
> My opinion. My sensibility. My arguments. My
> "Reading"....
> 
> Hamlet is not about King Henry V and the conspiracies around him. What
> Hamlet is about is
> as rich as 400 years of exploring. What I believe...
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 3:40 PM Mike Weaver <mike.weaver at zen.co.uk> wrote:
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>> On 12/07/2024 17:08, Mark Kohut wrote:
>>> Hollander had his. as does Joseph. I didn't/don't buy it.
>> 
>> Why should what you buy, and try to sell, set the limits of conversation?
>> 
>> Whatever happened to the free market of ideas?
>> 
>> Monitised by Mark - coming to a mall near you soooon.
>> 
>> 
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