Not P but always P (in some way).......There seems to be a real revolution going on NOW in Venezuela! Nat Guard turning; Police turning. people mobilizing

[Joseph Tracy]

The election was closely observed by over 800 international monitors, so pretty doubtful  about your exit poll, as in conducted by who at what polling sites? Oh you are referring to the US government sponsored poll favorite Edison Research. Oh I’m so surprised that after numerous coup attempts the US still wants to take over Venezuela. The last I heard the US state department declared some shmuck named Guaido who never ran for president  as president. That did not work out so good. And since when did people burn down hospitals for democracy? Are they getting advice on defending  democracy from  Israel?

> On Jul 30, 2024, at 6:57 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, thanks for your misunderstanding. Simple post about history happening. Seems like only yesterday we were talking about Pynchon's work and valence and always his vision of state power and human justice (among other things). 
> 
> From Heather Cox Richardson this morning: Finally, the world is watching events in Venezuela, where President Nicolás Maduro has claimed victory despite exit polls that showed him losing to opposition candidate Edmundo González by more than 30 points.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 11:40 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com <mailto:fqmorris at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Thanks for sharing your thoughts 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 11:20 PM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net <mailto:brook7 at sover.net>> wrote:
>>> A lot of police and govt. workers are being beat up in the streets by people who don’t like the results of the very transparently run  election in which the opposition got 44%. This looks to me like another US attempt at a coup for oil. This is what you celebrate? Is that how you want things to go.  How far? Like The genocide in Gaza? Kill everyone in the way of US dominance? Tell me how this is  related to this list serve or the writings of Thomas Pynchon? I thought you opposed violence.    
>>> > On Jul 29, 2024, at 9:02 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com <mailto:mark.kohut at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > <https://x.com/visegrad24>
>>> > Visegrád 24
>>> > <https://x.com/visegrad24>
>>> > @visegrad24
>>> > <https://x.com/visegrad24>
>>> > ·
>>> > 16m <https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1818084577979621591>
>>> > BREAKING: Entire neighbourhoods and favelas in Caracas are mobilizing and
>>> > preparing to drive down to the city center to confront Maduro’s thugs
>>> > --
>>> > Pynchon-L: https://waste.org/mailman/listinfo/pynchon-l
>>> 
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