(np) Common Sense imho

[Joseph Tracy]

44 % in a country of 29 million could make a large groundswell, just like Trump’s Maga groupies, but that doesn’t mean they won the election. The US state department is not the deciding or even reasonable arbiter of election results in Venezuela , and even they have not made a clear statement about election fraud, just vague “concerns”. 11 people are already dead, and you 2 cheer it on. 

> On Jul 30, 2024, at 5:00 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> There are many components at play, but I think the people who are now
> fighting with their own blood, add the sheer numbers of their groundswell,
> want one simple thing:
> 
> HAVE DEMOCRACY
> ENFORCE the will of the vote!
> 
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 4:46 PM Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> https://www.gregpalast.com/how-to-stop-putins-war-windfall-by-ending-our-embargo-of-venezuelan-oil/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> “This is a country which has a 2 million barrel a day OPEC allotment, and
>> we’re getting almost none of it. And they have tremendous gas reserves. So,
>> if the Germans are afraid that Putin will cut off their pipe, well, stop
>> cutting off Venezuela’s pipe. Because it’s not only the United States, it’s
>> the European Union and Britain, which are saying we won’t take Venezuelan
>> oil.
>> 
>> “And even more, we won’t let Venezuela pump the oil, because the embargo
>> has stopped them from getting the parts and equipment that they need to
>> keep their oil industry running, which is quite complex because it’s based
>> on heavy oil, so it’s very difficult without the parts, the expertise, and
>> the funding.
>> 
>> “For example, the Koch Brothers have a refinery on the Gulf Coast of Texas.
>> They were the number one customer of Venezuela. We took the oil that
>> Venezuela sent us to the Koch Brothers’ refinery, and the US treasury
>> seized all the money. When Venezuela sells oil, they can’t get the money,
>> so, obviously, they’re not going to sell it to us or to Europe because they
>> can’t get the money, so their oil production is extremely limited.
>> 
>> “People are literally starving in Venezuela, and they don’t have medicine
>> to fight COVID. It’s cruel. It’s horrible. If Putin were doing this in
>> Ukraine, we’d be screaming and hollering, but yet we’re doing it to
>> Venezuela. And who’s suffering from it? We are, because we’re knocking more
>> than a million barrels a day out of the world market.
>> 
>> “This is a leftover Trump disaster. Trump cutoff Venezuela, ordered the
>> embargo, ordered the blockade. Why? Well, number one, they say Venezuela is
>> not really a democratic nation. So, instead we’re getting our oil and gas
>> from the democratic nation of Saudi Arabia? By the way, our biggest source
>> of imports to the West is Russia. So the great democracies we’d rather get
>> our gas from are Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Russia, and Kazakhstan? These are the
>> great democracies we’re getting oil from instead of Venezuela?”
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