(np) Common Sense imho

[Joseph Tracy]

The most cited basis for claims of election fraud is from the Edison Group Exit Polls. They work mostly for agencies of the US government like Voice of America which the NYT said were instruments of CIA propaganda. Considering the several US attempts at a coup, the last publicly on record by John Bolton, US govt. sponsored media is not to be trusted concerning Venezuela. Regardless The Edison Group who as far as I have seen , have published no video evidence of the activities of these exit pollers ( exit polls are illegal in Venezuela)are only a single US based voice, and what they say contradicts the reports of some 8-900 international election observers. I have cited some of those. Below is another report/press release from 5 observers form the National Lawyers Guild. Another important factor is that the opposition candidates have said for weeks, Ala Donald Trump, that they will only respect the vote if they win. Hardly a democratic position and an obvious setup for an attempted coup.  Their hired supporters are burning, looting, assaulting police and even staging scenes of their own death.  One guy was caught on video getting up from his pool of blood  and taking off on a motorcycle. 



Thttps://nlginternational.org/2024/07/press-release-national-lawyers-guild-electoral-observers-praise-fairness-transparency-of-venezuelan-election-process-condemn-the-u-s-backed-oppositions-refusal-to-accept-the-outcome-of-de/
Press Release: National Lawyers Guild electoral observers praise fairness, transparency of Venezuelan election process; condemn the U.S. backed opposition’s refusal to accept the outcome of democratic election
nlginternational.org

Excerpt:PRESS RELEASE
National Lawyers Guild electoral observers praise fairness, transparency of Venezuelan election process; condemn the U.S. backed opposition’s refusal to accept the outcome of democratic election

CONTACT: Suzanne Adely    suzanne.adely at gmail.com <mailto:suzanne.adely at gmail.com>
                       Ken Montenegro kmontenegro at comeuppance.net <mailto:kmontenegro at comeuppance.net> 

July 29, 2024 – A delegation of five election observers from the National Lawyers Guild (NLG) monitored the presidential elections in Venezuela that took place on July 28, 2024. The delegation observed a transparent, fair voting process with scrupulous attention to legitimacy, access to the polls, and pluralism.

Despite the soundness of the electoral process, the U.S. backed opposition, with support from an anti-Maduro western press, has refused to accept the results, undermining the stability of Venezuela’s democracy. The president of the Consejo Nacional Electoral (CNE), Elvis Amoroso, called upon the attorney general to investigate the attacks on the electoral transmission system. The delegation strongly condemns these attacks on the electoral system as well as the role of the US in undermining the democratic process.

The official election results were announced shortly after 12 am on July 29: President Nicolas Maduro has been re-elected with a 51.2% share of the vote; his leading challenger,  Edmundo Gonzales, took 44.2% of the vote, with turnout approximately 59% throughout the country with a voting electorate of over 21.3 million people.

The delegation visited several polling sites in Caracas and La Guaira and shared notes and information with the 910 electoral observers present from 95 countries and many organizations, including the Carter Center, the United Nations, the African Union and the Latin American Council of Electoral Experts (CEELA).

“The Venezuelan elections today were not only fair and transparent but also represented an example of popular civic participation. Their successful outcome is a triumph for the Venezuelan people, especially considering the level of US interference and attempted sabotage of the democratic process, particularly through sanctions and coercive economic measures aimed at producing ‘regime change’ in Venezuela,” said Suzanne Adely, President of the NLG and a member of the delegation.

During the delegation’s visits to polling sites, members spoke freely with voters, including supporters of both the government and the opposition. We found that voters across the board expressed strong confidence in the electoral system and did not note any problems or hindrances to casting their ballot

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About the failed Bolton Coup in 2019 Trump said “ We would have taken it over. We would have gotten all that oil”.   Pretty much a summary of bipartisan policy in Venezuela from  1992 until the present. 


> On Jul 30, 2024, at 8:18 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> 
> 44 % in a country of 29 million could make a large groundswell, just like Trump’s Maga groupies, but that doesn’t mean they won the election. The US state department is not the deciding or even reasonable arbiter of election results in Venezuela , and even they have not made a clear statement about election fraud, just vague “concerns”. 11 people are already dead, and you 2 cheer it on. 
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>>> 
>>> https://www.gregpalast.com/how-to-stop-putins-war-windfall-by-ending-our-embargo-of-venezuelan-oil/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> “This is a country which has a 2 million barrel a day OPEC allotment, and
>>> we’re getting almost none of it. And they have tremendous gas reserves. So,
>>> if the Germans are afraid that Putin will cut off their pipe, well, stop
>>> cutting off Venezuela’s pipe. Because it’s not only the United States, it’s
>>> the European Union and Britain, which are saying we won’t take Venezuelan
>>> oil.
>>> 
>>> “And even more, we won’t let Venezuela pump the oil, because the embargo
>>> has stopped them from getting the parts and equipment that they need to
>>> keep their oil industry running, which is quite complex because it’s based
>>> on heavy oil, so it’s very difficult without the parts, the expertise, and
>>> the funding.
>>> 
>>> “For example, the Koch Brothers have a refinery on the Gulf Coast of Texas.
>>> They were the number one customer of Venezuela. We took the oil that
>>> Venezuela sent us to the Koch Brothers’ refinery, and the US treasury
>>> seized all the money. When Venezuela sells oil, they can’t get the money,
>>> so, obviously, they’re not going to sell it to us or to Europe because they
>>> can’t get the money, so their oil production is extremely limited.
>>> 
>>> “People are literally starving in Venezuela, and they don’t have medicine
>>> to fight COVID. It’s cruel. It’s horrible. If Putin were doing this in
>>> Ukraine, we’d be screaming and hollering, but yet we’re doing it to
>>> Venezuela. And who’s suffering from it? We are, because we’re knocking more
>>> than a million barrels a day out of the world market.
>>> 
>>> “This is a leftover Trump disaster. Trump cutoff Venezuela, ordered the
>>> embargo, ordered the blockade. Why? Well, number one, they say Venezuela is
>>> not really a democratic nation. So, instead we’re getting our oil and gas
>>> from the democratic nation of Saudi Arabia? By the way, our biggest source
>>> of imports to the West is Russia. So the great democracies we’d rather get
>>> our gas from are Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Russia, and Kazakhstan? These are the
>>> great democracies we’re getting oil from instead of Venezuela?”
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