CoL49-Revelation & chapter 5 beginning

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Sun Jun 23 21:00:25 UTC 2024


p. 82.....J--K Sale is a buried Pynchon homage to his old Cornell buddy
Kirkpatrick Sale,
a guy who REALLY did seem to believe wholly in antistatism,
anarchism/libertarianism
and maybe the secession of California and a couple other Western states and
whose wife
Faith became a NY editor and became Tom's ...after Cork Smith I
think...(that is I'm not sure of
the chronology but I am sure she became his editor)....

"She should have remembered the date on the book---1957. Another world.

Another statement of a new world.

There is a famous quote that went around in the sixties about the birth of
a new world but I can't find it.
It isn't Arnold's I don't think which is the only one I can recall....Hesse
or Heine, I'm thinking, esp hesse.

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 4:03 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> Few miscellaneous things in Chap 5..
>
> line on 81...dream: Mucho "making love to her on a soft white beach that
> was not part of any California she knew"
> another indication of a new world of Oedipa's......wakes up
> exhausted,,,,,which is NOT the usual way one wakes up
> from an erotic dream.....but maybe as a woman it can be?     BUT, it seems
> it was not erotic then.....
>
> p. 81......$12.50 in the mid-sixties would now be about $125.....inflation
> is about ten times.....pretty expensive book....
> comparable books of plays like that in paperback in the sixties when I was
> a bookseller were uner $2 to maybe $2.50
>
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 11:25 AM J K Van Nort via Pynchon-l <
> pynchon-l at waste.org> wrote:
>
>> This aligns with Otto’s idea of numinous as well. He points out its
>> ecstatic awe in the face of a “wholly other”. Which is why the phrase “In
>> another world” feels like more than just a nostalgic moment for her.
>>
>> These three seem to be her former guiding lights, but they don’t explain
>> what she sees anymore.
>>
>> In solidarity,
>> James
>>
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, June 23, 2024, 10:31, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> “The Numinous” is a core concept of Jungian Psychology.
>> https://jungiancenter.org/jung-and-the-numinosum/
>> It is a concept that is only “real” because of the “uncanny” feeling
>> associated with it. Very closely related to the concept of Intuition.  Both
>> are a kind of non-verbal “Knowing.”
>> On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 7:32 AM J K Van Nort via Pynchon-l <
>> pynchon-l at waste.org> wrote:
>> Questions:
>>
>>
>>    - When Oedipa walks through the protest, she thinks of three
>> anti-communists from the Eisenhower administration era. Why does Pynchon
>> use the term "numena" to categorize these three together? Why are they "In
>> another world."?
>>
>>
>>
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