COL49 Group Read - Echo and Narcissus

[Mark Kohut]

The Trystero is an alternative information system...

Those caught in the Echo/Narcissus loop are caught in the old communication
system.

Maybe?

On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 7:14 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> Continuing the  information loop metaphor:
>
> The postal service is a Communication system.  It is an information
> infrastructure. As far as I can tell, it does not control the content of
> communication.  It is also a public utility available to all.  So it’s a
> bit hard to say how it might fit into the echo chamber myth
>
> On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 6:53 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In the closed loop, ECHO CHAMBER prison, both characters are hooked,
> > addicted to the poison of information control: filtering/eliminating out
> > CHAOS to sustain the illusion of ORDER.
> >
> > But ONE of the characters is aware of her plight.  And she has the power
> > to STOP her contribution to the loop-system.  Stopping the machine by
> > REMOVING one’s contribution/role to sustaining the system.
> >
> > ————————
> >
> > *It should be noted: * *BOTH* of the [*Echo(she*) & *Narcissus(he)] *are
> > bound, restrained, locked away from the world **LIFE** that continues
> > around and despite them. They are in a contract for mutual destruction.
> So
> > the Echo Court playground is full of co-dependents.
> >
> > *It might be noted: * *Echo* is essentially providing Narcissus a
> > continuous flow of heroin.  She could stop speaking to him, removing the
> > chain of herself from Narcissus.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 3:49 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Echo and Narcissus
> >>
> >> Echo is forever, attempting to connect to her object of love. But she is
> >> cursed, gagged, able only to repeat the last words spoken by her lover.
> >> And Narcissus cannot see her as she speaks, captured himself with his
> own
> >> image.  And hearing only his own words of praise, he is locked in a
> sensory
> >> chamber, away from all troubles, LIFE, forever.
> >>
> >> At one level, Oedipa is Echo, and Metz is Narcissus.  But it should be
> >> noted that BOTH of the participants are bound, restrained, locked away
> from
> >> the world *LIFE* that continues around and despite them. They are in a
> >> contract for mutual destruction. So the Echo Court playground is full of
> >> co-dependents.
> >>
> >> But it might be noted that Echo is essentially providing Narcissus a
> >> continuous flow of heroin.  She could stop speaking to him, removing the
> >> chain of herself from Narcissus.
> >>
> >> Not sure where this is going.
> >>
> >> David Morris
> >>
> >>
> >>
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