Crying of Lot 49, Group Read 2024
J K Van Nort
jkvannort at yahoo.com
Wed May 15 20:40:21 UTC 2024
Does that include having sex with someone who is asleep that they just met?
I’m fine with Oed having WTF sex, and she wants to have it. In Metzger’s situation, I wouldn’t continue if the woman had passed out. Using sex to wake her up is presumptuous at best.
In solidarity,
James
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On Wednesday, May 15, 2024, 16:15, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
Men have WTF sex all the time. It’s not “real” or love. It’s SEX
On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 4:02 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> The sex Oed has with Metz is a guarded WTF sex. He initially flashed his
> sexuality so expertly that Oed figured he must be an actor setting her up,
> maybe hidden camera. He turns her on. He doesn’t APPEAR gay… He’s annoying,
> but her hair-down mode is powerful. So she feels up for the challenge
>
> David Morris
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 3:29 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Speaking again of sex, Oedipa and Metzger,
>> when I wrote about bad sex--not fully conscious, engaged, loving
>> Lawrentian sex--there is the countertruth (if I am right)...that
>>
>> They came together, satisfyingly.
>>
>> The need? The meaning?
>>
>> Oedipa's bite, thru the sharkskin suit into M's arm? Not normal. WTF?
>> And I was led to these words in Margaret Atwood's early poetic
>> narrative *The Journals of Susannah Moodie. *A Canadian woman
>> on the prairie, struggling, in the mid-nineteenth century.
>>
>> "you dangle on the leash of your own longing; your need grows teeth."
>>
>> No, no influence on Pynchon, maybe the reverse? 1970
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