COL49 Group Read, section 3

[Joseph Tracy]

> On May 17, 2024, at 9:31 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Oedipal was fully aware of the situation and the questions regarding Metz
> character, sincerity, sexual orientation, possible agendas.
I don’t see much basis for this conclusion or any way that she could be fully aware of Metz possible agendas. They were meeting for the first time.
>  She “had let
> her hair down” ON PURPOSE, as a means of ESCAPE.  She was sparring with
> Metz (some people enjoy that kind of thing) The whole time they were having
> sex. And she drank the alcohol, her own volition, fully cognizant. It meant
> to be drunk.
She wasn’t sparring very hard, he said no tequila, so that  she was going to win nothing if her guess was correct. Yes the game was part of the  appeal of the evening, which I mentioned myself earlier.
> 
> I don’t think pension was intending for the readers to be his rape police.
I don’t think so either, and made no claim Oedipa was raped.
Yes she was an adult and a full participant  regardless of whatever needs and desires were being expressed.  She continued the affair for a while too,albeit with growing tension between them. And a similar tension grows in her - what does she really want, what do others actually want from her, how to tell what is real, what is the nature of the larger  game she is part of?

As readers we are finding out more about both characters and Pynchon leaves us to think for ourselves about what they do, say and think.

> 
> On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 9:25 AM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> 
>>> On May 14, 2024, at 5:20 AM, J K Van Nort via Pynchon-l <
>> pynchon-l at waste.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> How consensual is the sex?
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