Shadow Ticket (!)

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On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 11:50 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> And at a simpler, Occam's Razor level: After the Enlightenment shattered
> our cosmic answers, but slowly like Marvell's vegetable love, because time
> keeps everything from happening at once,
> the detective story became ascendant because life (and death) became a
> mystery. ....in the basic paradigm, the world is restored to order once the
> murder is solved.
>
> Pynchon never solves the mystery, Finally.
>
> On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 1:01 AM j e l <ssnomes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've always considered Pyn~chon a Fortean novelist (even his writing
>> before SLOW LEARNER) which pretty much covers everything you outline below.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Fort
>>
>> --jel
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 5:00 AM <pynchon-l-request at waste.org> wrote:
>>
>>
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>>> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 14:24:11 -0400
>>> From: J Tracy <brook7 at sover.net>
>>> To: Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: Laura Kelber <laurakelber at gmail.com>, Pynchon List
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>>> I don?t even check Facebook regularly these days but saw the blurb there
>>> this morning.
>>>
>>> Are all Pynchon?s fiction after the stories in Slow learner  variations
>>> on something one might describe as Satirical Surrealistic Detective Fiction
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Is that the genre for industrial civilization? A genre kicked off by
>>> Edgar Allen Poe and Arthur Conan Doyle. The other genre i see here , as old
>>> as storytelling, is the confrontation with monstrous predatory forces whose
>>> modern forbears are Faust, Frankensten and supervillains. Anyway,  ?Normal?
>>> detective fiction and fantasy battles seems to be by far the most common
>>> genre writing in libraries these days. It?s an odd parallel because Pynchon
>>> takes the basic usefulness of  investigation/detection into every realm
>>> about which people are curious including other dimensions and real historic
>>> characters and events.
>>>
>>> Pynchon?s version gets dense,  layered,  thought provoking, horrifying
>>> and funny in a weird balance between entropy, brilliant satire, history
>>> reconsidered, paranoia and narrative coherence. Perhaps this approach of
>>> detection and confrontation with powerful and dangerous organizations,  and
>>> the resulting dilemma of whether to  seek escape vs  the  fading
>>> possibility  of public exposure and indictment of crimes is natural to the
>>> weaponized age we live in.
>>>
>>> IFound this in a search but it came with a warning  of possible criminal
>>> intent.
>>> Fake tickets, or what is also known as shadow tickets, or tickets with a
>>> temporary flight schedule or an itinerary, are non-genuine bookings that
>>> are created mainly to show the existence of a flight reservation.  ???  Are
>>> these those computer printout tickets you take to the airport to get your
>>> real ticket?
>>>
>>> >> the same image popped into all our heads.
>>> >>
>>> >> But remember the video blurb that was released ahead of Bleeding
>>> Edge? At
>>> >> the time, if I recall correctly, some of us wondered if it was a
>>> parody.
>>> >> But it really wasn't.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Apr 9, 2025, 8:37?AM Mike Weaver <mike.weaver at zen.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> At his age the idea of parodying himself possibly has a lot of
>>> appeal.
>>> >>> Can we assume he wrote the blurb?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 09/04/2025 12:57, Laura Kelber wrote:
>>> >>>> The description certainly sounds like a Pynchon novel, to the point
>>> of
>>> >>>> parody.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2025, 5:05?AM Michael Bailey <
>>> >>> michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> Wow! Yeehaw!
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Can this be?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 4:39?AM Erik T. Burns <eburns at gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/316427/shadow-ticket-by-thomas-pynchon/
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