GR translation: pitched out over the sea of ruins

J Tracy brook7 at sover.net
Tue Feb 18 01:06:41 UTC 2025


Considering that this is translation I would think a meaning close to thrust out , forced out, held out would work best. Prows and crows nests are not only subject to pitching waves . Their commonality is that they are,  in the case of  the prow, always over the sea and with the crows nest often over the sea below.


> On Feb 17, 2025, at 7:12 PM, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The problem is that here "pitched" is not used as the past tense of "pitch"
> since present tense is being used in this passage, and as an adjective it's
> parallel to "open" in "Ceiling-less rooms open to the sky". For the sense
> of "rocking" to work I would expect "pitching", not "pitched".
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 3:44 PM Laura Kelber <laurakelber at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> That was my first thought. But why the comparison to maritime things that
>> pitch?
>> 
>> If he means pitched, like a roof, why not make a comparison to the missing
>> roofs themselves?
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025, 3:22 PM Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> It certainly could suggest "pitching" like a ship does. However, here the
>>> word "pitched" seems to be a past participle used as an adjective, so I
>>> think it's more likely to simply mean "thrust", as in "sticking out",
>>> especially with the word "out" immediately following it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 1:08 AM Laura Kelber <laurakelber at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Given that he compares the rooms to prows and crow's nests, this
>>>> definition seems most likely:
>>>> 
>>>> (of a moving ship, aircraft, or vehicle) rock or oscillate around a
>>>> lateral axis, so that the front and back move up and down.
>>>> "the little steamer pressed on, pitching gently"
>>>> 
>>>> So the rooms, unsupported by walls, are swaying above the ruins.
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025, 12:47 AM Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> V373.7-11, P379.6-10    Smooth facets of buildings have given way to
>>>>> cobbly
>>>>> insides of concrete blasted apart, all the endless-pebbled rococo just
>>>>> behind the shuttering. Inside is outside. Ceiling-less rooms open to the
>>>>> sky, wall-less rooms pitched out over the sea of ruins in prows, in
>>>>> crow’s-nests. . . .
>>>>> 
>>>>> What does "pitched" mean here?
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