GR translation: Snake the remittance horse

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Tue Jan 28 19:43:25 UTC 2025


Nice surround sound stuff as I now call such...

And reading J Tracy's "Oil,,,black as midnight" reminds me of what one good
possible reading of Lew Basnight is: Basnight, Black as Night...

On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 1:51 PM J Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

> Just wanted to throw in that oil is referred to by native North Americans
> as the black snake ( whether this was circulating in 1970s ???). ( Oil-
> black as midnight,  and uncontrollable; a toxic  snake lethal to homicidal.
> I think of both the dyes derived from coal oil and the color spectrum sheen
> of oil as gravity’s rainbow. Oil is made via gravity acting on organic
> material. Actual rainbows are circular , not parabolic, and their only
> relation to gravity is the role of gravity   on rainfall and mist. They are
> primarily a function of light and translucent material like water, ice,
> silica, glass.
>
>  I think Michael is entirely right on the Midland Oilman’s motivation and
> the implied allusion . The Bush forbears had large investments in WW2 era
> German industries. ( Brown brothers Harriman prewar loans to German
> industries during their support for National socialists, )and later( post
> war) were involved in money laundering for the same  industries and their
> US investors.
>
> Mike:
>  Crazy thought;  If Pynch’s work has a significant audience in China, you
> may maximize your chance of publication with some translations of P
> criticism, especially of GR.
>
>
>
> > On Jan 24, 2025, at 2:21 AM, Michael Bailey <
> michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > He consistently demonstrates a high level of awareness of past and
> present
> > goings-on
> >
> > So I don’t want to read too much in, but I’m pretty sure there’s more
> going
> > on than I ever catch
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 2:12 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Well, didn't Thomas make it clear in those words he wrote as jacket and
> >> catalog copy that similarity to
> >> real events it WAS NOT, wnk, wink, showing us to look for the
> >> associational linkages?
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 2:09 AM Michael Bailey <
> >> michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Maybe Midnight was owned by the oil man or his cronies, and they didn’t
> >>> want the competition from Snake on the circuit?
> >>>
> >>> According to Wikipedia, Midnight’s peak years were the 1920s & ‘30s -
> >>> mostly retired in 1933 due to “ringbone disorder” and perished in 1936.
> >>>
> >>> Which fits with Tchitcherine’s Kirghiz posting during “early Stalin
> days.”
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Midland, Texas triggers a reflex reference:
> >>>
> >>> There’s a historic home in Midland, Texas where Bush 41 & family lived
> >>> from
> >>> 1951-55 even though that may not be super relevant.
> >>>
> >>> He was an oilman…but not during the 1920s
> >>>
> >>> From Wikipedia, he doesn’t seem to’ve been super high profile either,
> >>> during the likely writing time of GR but ¿quièn sabe?
> >>>
> >>> “Following an unsuccessful run for the United States Senate in 1964, he
> >>> was
> >>> elected to represent Texas’s 7th congressional district in 1966.
> President
> >>> Richard Nixon appointed Bush as the ambassador to the United Nations in
> >>> 1971 and as chairman of the Republican National Committee in 1973.”
> >>>
> >>> I couldn’t find a Midland, Texas oilman from the ‘20s but I didn’t look
> >>> very hard…
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 11:24 PM Mike Jing <
> gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> V342.10-18, P347.11-19   Tchitcherine’s horse is a version of
> himself—an
> >>>> Appaloosa from the United States named Snake. Snake used to be some
> >>> kind of
> >>>> remittance horse. Year before last he
> >>>> was in Saudi Arabia, being sent a check each month by a zany (or, if
> you
> >>>> enjoy paranoid systems, a horribly rational) Midland, Texas oil man to
> >>> stay
> >>>> off of the U.S. rodeo circuits, where in those days the famous bucking
> >>>> bronco Midnight was flinging young men right and left into the
> sun-beat
> >>>> fences. But Snake here is not so much Midnight-wild as methodically
> >>>> homicidal. Worse, he’s unpredictable.
> >>>>
> >>>> What's the rationale behind the Texas oil man's desire for Snake to
> stay
> >>>> off of the U.S. rodeo circuits? And what does it have to do with the
> >>> famous
> >>>> bucking bronco Midnight? I'm just trying to get a better understanding
> >>> of
> >>>> the underlying logic here.
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