Shadow Ticket ARC?

[rich]

an average page size for Ross Macdonald and others for sure. both IV and BE
had rather small fonts if memory serves. Zero K also had 288 pgs and is
also the longest novel DeLillo wrote since Underworld was issued in the
late 90s. but with quite big margins:
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Zero_K/qyh3CgAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PP7&printsec=frontcover

though i was initially disappointed at the change, we should be thankful at
this point for anything from the man. and 288 is quite better than average
size-wise with most novels being published nowadays

rich


On Sun, Jun 1, 2025 at 1:27 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> "Or from slightly larger
> to Inherent Vice normal mystery size. "
>
> This was ass-backwards from me....It would, of course, be fewer pages if
> the book were larger with more words on a page....
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 1, 2025 at 12:33 PM rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> figured you'd know the publishing behind the scenes, Mark.
>>
>> On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 2:18 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> First, it is almost certain that the Penguin edition listed is NOT Large
>>> Print....Large Print editions are as good as always
>>> a separate publication. Usually the rights were sold to a LP company to
>>> do the book, major separate distribution channels.
>>> If the Penguin Monolith now does their own LP, it would not be a job
>>> with known form yet....
>>>
>>> Second. Major review media NEED (AtD was the unfortunate exception, as
>>> we know) advance copies or readers' copies 3-4 months
>>> before pub day........that means sometime in June....I got an Advance
>>> paper copy of an early September book earlier this month...(jill Lepore)
>>>
>>> I think that the recent firming up of the pagination means they have
>>> gone to press with those.....
>>>
>>> The first pagination listed was likely a guesstimate--almost always a
>>> high side estimate based on manuscript pages and font and other
>>> uncertainties.
>>> Judgments. and decisions. Look at all the shapes Against the Day could
>>> have been.
>>>
>>> TRP was doing editing and shaping (and cutting? and rearranging, maybe)
>>> on what he had turned in.
>>>
>>> You will notice that each lesser amount, each number of pages listed, is
>>> divisible by 16. Called a signature it is how the innards of a book are put
>>> together.
>>>
>>> Seven signatures lost from first listing but it could be simply
>>> adjustment to the guessed size --OR yes, something dramatically cut. Or
>>> from slightly larger
>>> to Inherent Vice normal mystery size.
>>>
>>> YET, they might still hold off mailing galleys or reviewers' copies for
>>> other reasons too but not usually. In this case, given it is Pynchon and
>>> probably his last,
>>> they might have a carefully controlled, supervised numbered list of
>>> where each copy goes.....they could be flipped for Who Knows How
>>> Much....They stopped doing
>>> excess Stephen King galleys when they were selling for $1200 in the late
>>> eighties or so....
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 1:23 PM rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> yes, alas. pg count went from 384 to what is now on Penguin's website:
>>>> 288.
>>>> PenguinUK states 432, but I wonder if that's Large Print version.
>>>> Change in
>>>> font size, margins, who knows but 96 pgs suggests some cutting
>>>>
>>>> rich
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 12:28 PM Laura Kelber <laurakelber at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I missed the info about the decreased page length. Not a doorstopper,
>>>> > then?
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, May 30, 2025, 12:24 PM rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Howdy
>>>> >>
>>>> >> anybody guess when advanced reading copies will be sent for Shadow
>>>> Ticket?
>>>> >> with the decrease in stated page length, maybe closer to the time of
>>>> >> publication?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> rich
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Pynchon-L: https://waste.org/mailman/listinfo/pynchon-l
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> --
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>>>>
>>>