New PTA Film

[rich]

I read it I think in 1993 right before an amtrak trip from NY to yes,
Eureka, a trip I remember fondly and  have written about (keep on writing
Joseph). I was also deeply in love with someone who got me into Pynchon.
So, VL has personal connections for me. I remember the beauty of the place,
the Humboldt Area Foundation where I probably would've worked for free if
given the chance (they had a Koi pond!). there was this mural--"Beyond
Time...Peace" on the side of a barn, the Pacific, I was just attuned to the
place. Considering the current state of the country, I can't help but feel
a deep sadness and as Pynchon has mentioned many times, the roads not taken

rich

On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 2:49 PM Erik T. Burns <eburns at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a strange relationship with VL, when it came out I was starting my
> senior year of college and writing a thesis about conspiracy fiction in
> which TCoL49 was a central pillar. There hadn't been a TRP novel since GR
> and my hopes were very high. I bought it and read it just as soon as I
> could and ... hated it. I mean: fiery hate. Because it [seemingly] had
> nothing at all to do with the things I had been working on academically!
> [Yes, this is about the most ridiculous criterion anyone could ever have
> about anything, I fully recognize that now, 35 years later]. I have read VL
> since then but still bounce off it, like I bounced off IV and BE later... I
> guess I need to read it again, especially given how things have turned out
> for America.
>
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 6:06 PM J Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>
> > Vineland was my first Pynchon read( hilarious, dark, and wildly
> > entertaining), and I lived for 8 years in Arcata, which is the central
> > location of the book. I have gone to logger’s and Fisherman’s union halls
> > which also featured plays and music. Unique culture, great university and
> > wonderful place to live. I would definitely be up for a Vineland re-read.
> >
> > > On Mar 28, 2025, at 8:16 PM, Erik T. Burns <eburns at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > this review (of Vineland) makes it seem awfully prescient, 20 years
> later
> > > (and 35 after the book came out). Maybe time to read it again...
> > >
> > > Pynchon’s Vineland: The War on Drugs and the Coming Police-State
> > > <https://www.thesatirist.com/books/Vineland.html>
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 10:21 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> That armed revolution is hard to make funny is why it might be the
> > gravity
> > >> that deepens.
> > >>
> > >> Catch—22-like.   Others.
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 4:22 PM Erik T. Burns <eburns at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> at least not in the trailer!
> > >>> (and is Benicio del Toro supposed to be Takeshi?)
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 6:58 PM rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> and no fucking Kojira!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 2:54 PM Erik T. Burns <eburns at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> yeh this doesn't look like it follows the VL plot very closely.
> and I
> > >>> will
> > >>>>> be extra disappointed if there's no transfenestration
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 4:02 PM J Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> It could be a funny or cringy nonsense( hard to make armed
> > revolution
> > >>>>> look
> > >>>>>> funny at this time) but any connection to Vineland looks
> improbable
> > >>> to
> > >>>>> very
> > >>>>>> distant. Kinda bummed, was definitely looking forward to sn
> > >>> iadaptation
> > >>>>> of
> > >>>>>> Vineland.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2025, at 11:49 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I love it, luv it, but I would....."loosely based" is right
> on.....
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> C'mon, that Vive La Revolution is funny as a funny bone hit...
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 9:26 AM rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> howdy
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> new trailer for PTA's new film loosely based on Vineland I have
> to
> > >>>>> say
> > >>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>> pretty underwhelming. all the charm and goofiness in the book
> > >>> seems
> > >>>>>> gone,
> > >>>>>>>> but it is a trailer.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> and is that really the title?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> >
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feOQFKv2Lw4&ab_channel=WarnerBros.UK%26Ireland
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