NP - China's Bleeding Edge Naval tech

[J Tracy]

I thought you no longer read my posts. Are your pants flaming up or is this a change of personal  P-list policy.? Lotta people including supporters of arming Ukraine have called it a proxy war, so not exactly an original phrase on my part, with many who supported the idea of a proxy war stating the real goal was regime change or serious damage to Russia.  I told you at the start that this would lead to enormous Ukrainian suffering and loss of life  and the likely  territorial  loss of more than just Crimea, receiving typical scorn from you, but sad confirmation in the historic reality.

As. far as Hungary, I hardly think some dude called Jay in Kyiv is a reliable source on European economics. My quick search  saw several saying either modest economic growth or steady growth. A ranking put them in about the middle of EU nations They also saw significant growth in middle class wealth. And they did it without billions of dollars from the US or a thriving black market in body parts and synthetic coke. Do you quote just anyone from Ukraine as reliable sources?


> On Oct 26, 2025, at 7:06 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
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> No wonder you don't want to read the new Pynchon....."proxy war with Russia", yeah, right....
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> Pynchon knows better, so brilliantly better.....
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> On Sat, Oct 25, 2025 at 9:48 PM J Tracy <brook7 at sover.net <mailto:brook7 at sover.net>> wrote:
>> Hope Heg and T-Rump catch on that war with China is about as smart as the proxy war with Russia, only in this case US soldiers,  if not the entire nuking world,  would be the proxies. 
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>> > On Oct 25, 2025, at 5:02 PM, Cagliostro_the_Impossible via Pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org <mailto:pynchon-l at waste.org>> wrote:
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>> > "There seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today"
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>> > On Saturday, October 25th, 2025 at 4:15 AM, matthew cissell <mccissell at gmail.com <mailto:mccissell at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> >> Howdy folks,
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>> >> Since we're not a strict literary crowd and do wander into tech talk, I
>> >> thought I might pass something along.
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>> >> It seems that China has taken a rather significant step forward, they have
>> >> developed electro-magnetic catapults for use on their carriers that work
>> >> with all types of planes/ drones, even the Chinese stealth plane. This is
>> >> big because it puts them ahead of the US. Although Unc Sam has EM
>> >> catapults, they don't work with the US Stealth planes and the sortie/ hr
>> >> rate is lower. The Chinese can have all their birds in the air much faster.
>> >> 
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBr0zOE5930
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>> >> I got this from a YT channel called Inside China Business operated by a US
>> >> expat in CHina named Kevin Walmsley. I've been watching him for a while now
>> >> and his analysis is very good. He mostly looks at supply chains and how
>> >> China has positioned itself to identify a market and dominate or
>> >> consolidate its position (e.g., setting up direct purchase agreements with
>> >> African cocoa growers and other Roads and bridges programs that have helped
>> >> them establish the BRICs).
>> >> 
>> >> Ciao
>> >> mc otis
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