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Corbeau Castrum filsducorbeau at pm.me
Fri Jan 9 12:59:35 UTC 2026


There are some basic similarities shared between Pynchon's detective novels post-ATD, presumably the genre conventions as he understands them. They consist of:

a private detective protagonist (i.e. not police/the state) who tries to remain “professional” (“Trying to be professional here,” 3 IV “Hicks trying to stay professional,” 2 ST)

is deaf and dumb (“Deaf and dumb, part of the job,” 4 IV, “Professionally D and D,” 36 BE, “D and D, Lino, that’s me,” 26 ST)

is happy to work without immediate pay (“All on spec, eh?” 7 IV, “Not that I mind working on spec,” 11 BE)

struggles with matrimonials (“I don’t do matrimonials, man,” 191 IV, “I hate matrimonials,” 127 BE, “[…] too bad that matrimonials, as you’ll recall, were never my line—” 4 ST)


There are perhaps some other commonalities exclusive to Pynchon's detective novels but these are the ones most obvious to me.

On Friday, January 9th, 2026 at 19:33, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> So, this first chapter alone seems to me most like the beginning of *Inherent
> Vice *as TRP sets up
> the private dick and the 'case"...this is obvious I know but back to basics.
> 
> Q: I am not great detective novel well-read enough nor well noir
> movie-watched enough to know this:
> I know many, many open with the 'dame' visiting our detective and some kind
> of human entanglement
> happens that matters for the case....Is it the case that most start with a
> new dame that the detective
> has never known?
> 
> Or why do both of Pynchon's similar mysteries start with, relatedly, a
> woman with which the detective has some kind of history?
> And, also,although I have to refresh the plot details, Maxine in her
> mystery has a past entanglement emerge (but not at the beginning, right?)
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