Re: Studies in Unmeaning: On Thomas Pynchon’s Detective Fictions
Joseph Tracy
coypoet at mailfence.com
Tue Sep 29 03:52:01 UTC 2026
Then I don't know where I read it. I got Slow Learner from the library
and that's the only place I could imagine having read it. Did someone
post it through the list and there was a brief discussion? It was rather
juvenile as a revenge story. Sucks? Maybe. But maybe the nuclear aspect
of GR along with the time distortion is bit of that too. I know I'll
get slammed for that. My real point is that most revenge against America
stories are paranoid delusions of the most despicable Americans and
possible false flags, while Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the
extermination of most Native American tribal cultures, the US civil war,
the bombing of Cambodia, Shock and Awe, the mass killing in the
Philippines and Indonesia etc. are the general pattern, similar to other
empires.
I find only 3 alternative history type endings in P's work. GR
-nuclear war as revenge of colonized, ATD- east and west ascend into
grace, ST- descent into fascism( looking very similar to actual
bipartisan direction). Most leave where they started as far as any major
historic change. We know a bit more about the game and it's players, we
know technologies push civilization in new directions. Eucatastrophe
type inner or outer changes? Not so much.
I am reading The Divine Comedy though not sure I am willing to claw my
way through the rest of hell and then purgatory and may will just skip
a lot of the middle cantos to see what is up in Dante's paradise. V is
a huge nod to Dante, but offers only the briefest glimpse of heaven in
Benny's love affair with the Latina young woman. He seems to miss this
chance and end up pretty damn stuck, which is the primary characteristic
of Dante's hell. At best he is bouncing back forth between hell and
purgatory like a yo yo.
It often seems that Pynchon can imagine no alternative to the Dante plot
but escape, or private contentment in marriage ( M&D, maybe BE, maybe
ST, maybe V). Escape seems the most common ending, or in ATD escape plus
married contentment, or escape through renunciation/monasticism).
Perhaps Cyprian Latewood is the closest to Dante's hero/self.
On 9/28/26 1:41 AM, Michael Bailey via Pynchon-l wrote:
> He left "Mortality and Mercy in Vienna" (title is a quote from Shakespeare's Measure for Measure) out of Slow Learner.
>
>
> *
> There's some buzz about some editions of Slow Learner having it, but nothing definitive
> *
> https://www.reddit.com/r/ThomasPynchon/comments/xa5s0n/long_edition_of_slow_learner/
>
> It's not mentioned in the Intro. I think he was wise, because it sucks, but what do I know?
>
>
> Here's an article from Pynchon Notes about it - this person likes it
> file:///home/mike/Downloads/pn-2794-keesey.pdf
>
> I think it's only available in a) the "Epoch" Cornell magazine, b) a small unauthorized chapbook
> And of course c) all over the place online
>
> https://shipwrecklibrary.com/the-modern-word/pynchon/sl-mortality/
>
> ________________________________
>
> Joseph wrote:
>
> Gravity's Rainbow in overall arc could be seen to imitate the revenge
> story in Slow Learner about the Native American. Personally, I think
> this was never in the cards. The way things are likely to go, it is not
> the uprising of the victims of empire that is likely to launch a nuclear
> war, but the endless paranoia about uprising of some devil filled
> emperor who thinks he is the immortal Zeus.
>
>
>
> --
> Pynchon-L: https://waste.org/mailman/listinfo/pynchon-l
More information about the Pynchon-l
mailing list