please help your poor pynchon-l owner

Jody Keith Gilbert gilbert
Wed Oct 5 11:53:19 CDT 1994


I need some help with the following mail error message.  I cannot
determine which address it is that is responsible for the
">  Address doesn't refer to a known recipient." 
message.  There is noone on the list at "pcsi.cirrus.com".
Our postmaster suggests that someone on the list has set a forwarding
address to "pcsi.cirrus.com" and then that forwarding address has
become nonexistent.  I tried sending a message to
postmaster at pcsi.cirrus.com,
but to no avail.  I am tiring of these error messages every time a
post goes to the list.  If anyone out there determines that they are
in fact responsible, penance will be accepted in the form of a first
edition of *V*.



Forwarded message:
> From MAILER-DAEMON at pcsi.cirrus.com Tue Oct  4 12:37:27 1994
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>  pcsimail.pcsi.cirrus
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> Subject: Returned mail: Non delivery of message.
> 
> 	------- Transcript of Report follows ------
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> Re-Content-Subject:  V. and Lot 49
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>   <Pine.3.88.9410041401.A20387-0100000 at bosshog.arts.uwo.ca>
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> Date:  Tue, 4 Oct 1994 15:06:57 -0400 (EDT)
> From:  "James W. Horton" <jwhorton at bosshog.arts.uwo.ca>
> Reply-To:  "James W. Horton" <jwhorton at bosshog.arts.uwo.ca>
> Subject:  V. and Lot 49
> To:  pynchon-l at sfu.ca
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> Sender:  owner-pynchon-l at sfu.ca
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> 
> 
> 	I am so glad to hear that there are people who prefer V. to 
> Lot49.  I think you are right about the semiotic thing, Lot49 lends 
> itself the most obviously to this kind of interpretation.  There is 
> another related element too, I think.  That is, the emotional depth of V. 
> tends to be much greater: lots of youthful as well as aged melancholy, 
> Conradian angst about the modern world, nameless terrors about machinery 
> and nihilism that can't really be completely explained by "aporia" or the 
> unreliability of the sign (though even Lot49 has more to it than that) etc.  
> Sometimes I think those who favour Lot49 imagine that the emotional 
> depth of V. requires immature responses that one is supposed to grow out 
> of. I disagree with these people.  
> 
> 	There is one good (but not necessarily sufficient) reason that 
> Lot49 is taught far more often than V.:  it's much shorter.  You need 
> very dedicated students to read it unless you have the good luck to have 
> a group that twigs on to it right away.  That being said, though, I wonder 
> whether I shouldn't have assigned it this year (oh well, too late) in 
> stead of Lot49.
> 
> 	I think there is another reason why V. gets too little attention: 
> maybe I'm just imagining this, but I think it's the "not bad for a first 
> novel" phenomenon.  Some people are convinced that your first book, 
> especially if you are very young when you write it, can't possibly be 
> brilliant.  This idea caters to those who have slogged away for years at 
> their work and through no fault of their own just haven't managed to 
> write anything very good.  However, the evidence is in the text.
> 
> J.W. Horton
> 
> 
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John (Jody) K. Gilbert
Department of English
Simon Fraser University
Burnaby, B.C. Canada
office phone (604) 291-3220
dept. phone  (604) 291-3136
internet     gilbert at sfu.ca




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