(Fwd) Re: (Fwd) Re: 1984. in China.

[Aaron Yeater]

well, i guess i ruffled a feather. o'er a delish onion bagel & cream 
cheez, i'll try to respond...

> Wrong. 
ok...good start...

> I never claimed that liberals who get to make a fuss about this 
were
> victims. On the contrary I said that we obtain the privilege of
> expressing our objections at other people's expense (we are
> provileged). Yet we achieve little *merely by speaking* - how could 
we
> when there are so many `respectable' sources out there affirming 
the
> party line. 

I do not mean to insult, but this approach strikes me as a little 
arrogant.  Take the Gulf War.  I opposed it, I worked on campus 
against it, I went to DC and marched against it.  Didn't stop the 
war, right?  Why?  Maybe cuz the Oil Companies wanted it this way, I 
will grant that as a possibility.  but maybe just because a whole lot 
of people in this country disagreed with me.  thought i was wrong and 
da Bushman was right and bugger all with some 19 yr. old jerk.  Now 
it's possible they are 1) in league with the conspiracy or 2) stupid. 
The first is unrealistic (140,000,000 conspiracists?  dontcha think 
we'd have seen a newsletter or something?)..which leaves us with the 
second.  That the oil companies and other institutions have their way 
with people's heads...except for my head, of course, cuz i'm smarter 
than the masses, middle America, I guess.  I can see right thru them. 
There is a 3rd option:  that the conspiracy is so subtle, it is 
nothing at all, only the world, which as Wittgenstein says and TRP 
quotes "Is all that is the case"...

It is this kind of arrogance which has doomed the left to the 
academy, unfortunately.  It makes kute theory, but bad politics...



>I believe that Pynchon for all his prevarication and
> philosophical dalliance in no way intends to deny that `bad shit' 
(by
> which is intended no anti-realist, excluded middle crapola) often
> happens by design.
Hmmm, well, I think that TRP's philosophy is no dalliance and that 
the ambiguous Zone between designed  meaning and the random, anarchic 
and  free, is where the meat of the matter is...  

but then, we disagree...
Andrew Dinn
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