Yes, Virginia

[matthew.percy at utoronto.ca]

> > 
> > Are we using "science" and "scientists" interchangeably & possibly
> > incorrectly? "Science" is what Schuber has described: an objective
> > observation that does not depend on the social role of the obser-
> > ver. Is there any arguement here? But "Scientist" are those folks 
> > who make the observations. They need funding. They may belong to
> > churches. Some are very aggressive and, in cases like Von Braun,
> > will prosecute their vision no matter what the cost. It is the
> > scientists that TRP skewers, not the science. TRP doesn't denounce
> > behavioralism, he denounces the practicioners who excuse their
> > cruelty as objectivity. We'll see the St. Veronica scenes as a
> > foreshadow of the concentration camp scenes later (Pokler).

I'D have to disagree with you here.  Granted. TRP doesn't denounce all 
science, gbut he does denounce science - like behaviorism - which makes 
an epistemological claim to know an objective truth.  From _GR_, the science
TRP seems to favor is more Einsteinian/quantum rather than a dereministic
Laplacian science.   Think of the respective representations opf Mexico 
v. Pointsman :chaos v. control, you like, you like?

Matt "Music for Adverts" Percy