Bad Jokes & Ebonics

[MASCARO at humnet.ucla.edu]

The kind of ebonics jokes that poke fun at the whole controversy seem ok to me (too bad I 
can't rememebr the one I heard, something about Harvonics, you know "My pahh 
pahhked tha caahr in Haaavahd Yahhd"), but I agree that there's nothing remotely funny 
about this Lord's Prayer version.  I think we should have a list rule that if your closing 
motto is longer than your post, you shouldn't post.  Or maybe if your closing motto is as 
simplistic as your post, don't post, and get rid of the motto.

john m


Bonnie reacts badly to the ebonics L.P.:

>Is there any need to spread this crap any further.  Doesn't anyone 
>understand that ebonices "jokes" are hate speech?  I mean, yeah, if you 
>feel a great unbridled net-mediated freedom to be a public racist, then 
>that's one thing.  But I think that some folks just don't know that this 
>kind of stuff offends--really.
>
>
>
>On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Gary Elshaw wrote:
>
>> The recent discussion of Ebonics delivered this to my in-box today
>> 
>> 
>>  EBONICS                                 ENGLISH
>> 
>>  Big Daddy's Rap                         The Lord's Prayer
>>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>  Yo, Bid Daddy upstairs,                 Our Father, who art in  Heaven
>> 
>>  You be chillin'                         Hallowed be thy name
>> 
>>  So be yo hood                           Thy Kingdom come
>> 
>>  You be sayin' it, I be doin' it         Thy will be done
>> 
>>  In this here hood and yo's              On earth as it is in heaven
>> 
>>  Gimme some eats                         Give us this day our daily bread
>> 
>> 
>>  And cut me some slack, Blood            And forgive us our trespasses
>> 
>>  Sos I be doin' it to dem dat diss me    As we forgive those who trespass
>>                                              against us
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Don't be pushing me into no jive        And lead us not into temptation
>> 
>>  And keep dem Crips away                 But deliver us from evil
>> 
>>  'Cause you always be da Man             For thine is the Kingdom, the
>>  				power and the glory, forever.
>> 
>>  Aaa-men                                 Amen
>> 
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Gary
>> 
>> 
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>> "In any case, I wouldn't want to go visit a poststructuralist dentist, who
>> believes that cavities and novocaine are social constructs, nor to a
>> postmodern oncologist who believes that all cancer treatments are relatively
>> equal because they are ideologically based.  In one case I would no doubt be
>> hollering as my dentist dismissed my idea of pain as being a logocentric
>> attachment; in the other, I would perhaps die after being prayed over by,
>> oh, I don't know, snake-handlers or some such beautiful but nevertheless
>> ineffective medicine.  And I wonder what "narrative" a postcolonial
>> astrophysicist would want to tell me about the primitive life "discovered"
>> on Mars?"     -Rich Cummins
>> 
>>                                    Gary Elshaw
>>                        3/106 Glenmore Street, Thorndon, Welington
>>                               Tel: 64-4-475-8270
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